1. Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Sweden - About 1988 and older

Magnificent 7

Discussion in 'Vintage Restoration Projects' started by dartyppyt, Aug 19, 2013.

  1. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    I stayed with the 17 Rear Husky rims. Mostly due to the spokes and Buchanan's knew the sizes. I didn't want to venture into an 18" with that conical hub.
    I went 18" on Maico and I had to throw a set of spokes away, I had made up, because they were a titch too short. I ended up buying an 18 and 21 gold rim kit with spokes from VMX.

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  2. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Have any of you given thoughts to using this (Emergency brake lining material) to reline a set of shoes?

    I know the Maico guys are using this material because the braking/stopping is a lot better?

    It is fairly reasonable to do and I have extra hubs to clamp the shoes in till glue is set.

    It would run me about $5 bux a shoe, which is cheap.

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  3. ruwfo Administrator

    Location:
    NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1980 390CR, 1982 430CR, 1984 400WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    1985 250XC, 2016 FJ-09

    What 17" tires are you using? IRC, or the Kenda K257D
  4. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    I'm using the IRC.

  5. DeathFromAbove My Cat Says AREAR!

    Location:
    North New Jersey
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    70,71 360 8s 72,74 450 73 360 73 250
    Other Motorcycles:
    66 Triumph Trophy 99 ZRX1100
    I'm interested Darin, especially for the old large hub EnduroC and Sportsmans that you can not find shoes for! Where did you get it and what is the glue? Also do they have to be rivited as well? Chris
  6. ruwfo Administrator

    Location:
    NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1980 390CR, 1982 430CR, 1984 400WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    1985 250XC, 2016 FJ-09
    Darin,
    message Gary or call him, he was saying , to me he's got some super dupe brake mod, not sure if it will work on a older then 82 hub, though. We've been talking about making a 420CR out on my 80 390, so he's got a bunch of cool ideas. We' ll see & i'll post once
    we get further into it.

    Husky John



  7. Bill502 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Upstate NY
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2007 WR167 1978 CR250 1938 sw maus
    Other Motorcycles:
    1970 Triumph T100C 1973 Honda TL125
    Years ago back in the late 70s my friends and I relined our own brake shoes with a material called Mintex,it worked out about as good as the stock shoes. We got our materials from the local brake shop. My friends had Autos and used a lot of brake shoes to slow them down so they would downshift faster. We made a steel band to clamp the shoes together after gluing them up and baked them in and oven.Can't remember what we used for bonding agent.
    Bill
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  8. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    I got the material from Mcmaster Carr and the Pliobond Glue. I have to read the directions good but think the glue sets while baking in oven at 300 degrees. We should be good to go without any rivets. It is same material as Maico guys using. I will be the Guinee pig. I have extra hubs that I plan to clamp the shoes in to bake to get the perfect form. I have 4' of material at 1 1/2 inch wide so I can cover the 30mm shoe widths and 25mm ones. I will cut any extra down when done. This woven material looks pretty bitey and gnarly with brass mixed in. I'll post progress and steps on here to do it plus results. What's worse that can happen? I can't stop and end up in a cornfield.......... Total cost was $40 bux with the glue.
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  9. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Glad you brought that up cause he is suppose to call me one weekend. I will ask about what brake mods he is doing. Yeah! Cool! Do a thread on the 420 conversion.
  10. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250

    Good info Bill! They might have used Anabond or Raybestos adhesive. Raybestos, I have to buy in large quantity. Anabond think comes from India. Pliobond was suggested as another good glue. I'll try to get you guys a good close up pic of the material.

    Does anyone on here have a source for new brake shoe springs only? Some of my old springs are :thumbsdown:
  11. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Here is a close up of that Emergency brake material:

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  12. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    I did both front and back sets on my 390. The new brake material is the cats ass!
    I had friends come out from Ohio and they go back to my Teenage racing years. We spent yesterday on our modern bikes having fun ripping bark off trees. So my friend has a 79 CR 390 stock and his runs perfect. He raced one back in day. I let him ride mine and he said mine is a monster over his.
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  13. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    I’ll post tomorrow how I realigned the shoes with pics.
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  14. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    I basically put old shoe in a vice and chipped old lining off with wood chisel. Didn't want to grind it off since might been asbestos?

    Then put shoe in blast cabinet and blasted old glue off. Then cleaned shoe with carb cleaner.

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  15. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Put a coat of Pliobond on both surfaces (New Lining and Old Shoe).

    Baked in oven @ 200 Degrees just to dry Glue.

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  16. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Once dry. I used acetone to wipe on glue that is on old shoe to kinda re activate it. Then applied more glue to new lining and old shoe again. Line up the center marks I put on lining and shoe, then clamped them in a used hub.
    Bake @ 325 degrees for 30 mins.

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  17. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    After cooled, I used my air grinders to cut excess off sides and chamfered both front and rear parts of lining (Like stock). Then cleaned up lining with 40 grit sand paper.[IMG][IMG]
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  18. DeathFromAbove My Cat Says AREAR!

    Location:
    North New Jersey
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    70,71 360 8s 72,74 450 73 360 73 250
    Other Motorcycles:
    66 Triumph Trophy 99 ZRX1100
    Sweet!! Darin I used a different method and the WRONG glue, more of an epoxy and it did not squish out enough. I got everything apart and scraped the stuff before it set up. I made a circle with a pallet band and welded some small bent 45* pcs to a small turnbuckle and put it all inside the band, then adjusted the buckle out to tension the shoes to the lining. Looks like I'll be using your glue and my clamp system. Thanks for the R&D. How you doing that with the pics? Chris
  19. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Thanx DFA!

    I had to end up getting a Smugmug acct. for $55 year. I just upload to Smugmug, right click on the pic, select copy the image address, then paste in the pic tab on here.

    Wait till you use that Pliobond. It smells 100% like cat piss! Meow! Seems to be good stuff.

    With this new brake material. It bends real easy after heated, to dry 1st layer of glue.
  20. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Next project, is to get this one finished off. Gonna send the frame out to get powder coated, since I had to rework the upper shock mounts to get the Fox shocks to mount.

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