Broken fuel pump fittings, current solution?

Discussion in '610/630' started by KIK ROX, Jul 13, 2015.

  1. KIK ROX Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Hi guys,
    What is the current solution for broken fittings on my '08 TE610 fuel pump? -Thanks!
  2. Spice Weasel Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    UK
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 SM610
  3. joedirt Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    PA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr250
  4. joedirt Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    PA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr250
  5. Spice Weasel Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    UK
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 SM610
    Sorry, my mistake. I just realized that doesnt push as far in.
    This is mine. I made the metal piece on my lathe then threaded it and screwed it into the plastic part with some sealant. Then I drilled a hole down through the top wall of the piece so the petrol could get through.
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  6. TrailPunter Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Escondido, CA
    Call George at Uptite. He drilled my pump housing and installed brass fittings. No more worries.

    R/

    Mike
  7. Stujam Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Brisbane Austrlia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    09te610, 11te630
    A mate retapped for some brass fitting he picked up at a tractor / agricultural store . The where a great fit and will not break.
  8. Baroquenride Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Vancouver, Wa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE-610
    Other Motorcycles:
    Honda VFR800
    If anyone see this in the future, I have the correct drill bit and tap to do the mod. Just PM me to borrow it.
  9. mconway Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE250, 450smr, 610sm
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    Any suggestions as to how to get the red plastic piece out?

    I got the metal ring off (after this pic was taken) but the red plastic is really lodged in there good!
  10. Baroquenride Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Vancouver, Wa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE-610
    Other Motorcycles:
    Honda VFR800
    If you plan on keeping the fittings scrape it out with a dental pick or small chisel etc. Otherwise drill it out and tap it for brass fittings.
  11. Trenchcoat85 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NorCal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '14 TE 310R
    Other Motorcycles:
    '85 shovel, '75 DT400, '97 XR400
    Why doncha post the info here so it's available? ...if you got a picture of the fitting- that'd be cool too.

    (in another thread, mconway got that out and got a replacement fitting. he did not supply any details afterwards)
  12. Sasha Pave Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Oakland CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2009 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    2011 KTM XC250, 1974 Vespa Rally
  13. Trenchcoat85 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NorCal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '14 TE 310R
    Other Motorcycles:
    '85 shovel, '75 DT400, '97 XR400
    Nice, as is usual for ZTR. But I gotta ask: how is that new aluminum elbow retained in the fuel pump plate?

    I don't know if you looked at the plastic elbow from Sherco in the other thread but it retails for £63.99 ($80) so you got off pretty easy.
  14. Sasha Pave Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Oakland CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2009 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    2011 KTM XC250, 1974 Vespa Rally
    Good question, I haven't started into it quite yet. There are some other threads about using channel-loc pliers and cantilever leverage. It seems you just have to force it out. I worry about the weird metal retaining washer in there.

    I checked with the US Sherco distributer and they are out of stock, expecting more in a week or so. Rather expensive little bastard. I bet if you could find the Chinese source, it would be pennies.

    I'll post up the install, fingers crossed there won't be any bloody knuckles.
  15. Trenchcoat85 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Northern NorCal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '14 TE 310R
    Other Motorcycles:
    '85 shovel, '75 DT400, '97 XR400
    no, I'm not asking about getting the plastic one out; I understand that. What I'm curious about is how the new aluminum elbow is retained once installed?

    ...maybe a metal spring clip? that is, if there is a groove on the female half I guess?
  16. Sasha Pave Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Oakland CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2009 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    2011 KTM XC250, 1974 Vespa Rally

    I just got the ZipTy replacement and it looks beautiful. I'll try to post pictures of the procedure, but it comes with a drill bit, tap and set screw (allen). After inserting it, you drill and tap the metal plate (outside the tank) on the raised collar, and insert the set screw. It says to use loctite, screw all the way in, then back out 1/2 turn.

    Looks simple enough. I'll update once I'm done.

    I also just saw the trick to getting the fuel lines off without spilling gas everywhere (small piece of fuel line connecting the two elbows). Wish I saw that earlier, I hate dealing with spilled gas.

    I may replace the white elbow as well, just to be safe.
  17. Trenchcoat85 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NorCal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '14 TE 310R
    Other Motorcycles:
    '85 shovel, '75 DT400, '97 XR400
    that's actually a pretty smart solution. cool. I guess that explains the cost too.


    I don't know this technique (or really: I don't understand the problem). why would fuel come out? are you routing the fuel elbow into the return elbow or something?

    btw, save the broken red elbow. then, if you or anybody else has another issue you can repair it and re-use it.
  18. Sasha Pave Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Oakland CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2009 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    2011 KTM XC250, 1974 Vespa Rally
    Success! I finally replaced the elbow with the fancy new CNC unit from ZipTy. I've gotta give them credit for making this piece and selling it for a reasonable price. They're certainly not in it for the money, but to help keep our Italian Huskys on the trail.

    End result: Works perfect, no leaks, everything fit without any issues.

    Here are a few photos of the process, took about 30m:

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    1) Original broken red elbow



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    2) Remove old broken elbow. I grabbed it with channel-lock pliers and tried to wiggle it out, and I knew this would happen - it broke off flush with the surface. I used a small pick to get the steel washer out, then a gentle pry with a flat head screwdriver pulled out the rest of the red plastic. I put a small sheet metal screw in the bottom just to 'plug it up' and not get any red plastic debris in there.



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    3) The new elbow requires a small hole drilled and tapped on the collar of the metal housing. I stuffed a paper towel in there to catch debris. Super easy, the elbow from ZipTy came with the drill bit, set screw and even the tap!


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    4) New elbow in place, fit perfectly, used maybe a little too much loctite but you can never be too safe :)


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    5) Time to mount it up. Hoses fit perfectly. It's a shame this is of sight, it's really a nice pice of CNC aluminum! It's going to take more than a tug on the fuel line to break this one!

    Link to product:
    https://ziptyracing.com/products/fuel-pump-elbow-oem-8000ah2930-gte-fi-husky
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  19. Redrockmania Husqvarna
    AA Class

  20. Redrockmania Husqvarna
    AA Class

    I have experimented with making various replacement elbows for the fuel lines going into the fuel pump metal housing. I have the advantage of having a home lathe and milling machine. The original plastic connector elbows are too weak and vulnerable and prone to break if you try to remove them. I have machining replacements from solid brass rod in 2 parts. First I cut to length two pieces of rod (I used 15mm diameter and 10mm diameter). I then copy the dimensions of the original plastic elbows. The advantage of using brass is strength, ease of machining and the capacity to solder together the right angle connection of the two pieces of machined brass making a strong and leak proof join You will see a raised metal rim or flange on the base of the fuel pump housing where the elbows are pushed in. As protection against the elbows working loose or falling out I drill a small hole into the side of the flange and part way into the body of the brass elbow in situ, then I cut a thread with a tap into both drill holes and then fit a stainless steel grub screw. This keeps them stable and secure. Hope this helps.