1. Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Sweden - About 1988 and older

86 Husky 400 WR Brake Bleed Question.

Discussion in 'Vintage/Left Kickers' started by photoguy_43420, May 3, 2018.

  1. photoguy_43420 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Ohio
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11 Husqvarna's from 1973-2001
    Other Motorcycles:
    73 Norton Commando 850
    Hi,

    I just got back my master cylinder from a dealer who rebuilt it. I tried to bleed it today with no luck. When I open the bleeder I do have some fulid come out. No pressure though. I put a clear line on the bleeder with it open and I don't get any fluid that comes through. I do see air bubbles in the master cylinder when I pump it. I have probably pump it 100 times. Any tips on this?
  2. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    make sure there is no loop in the line
    by this I mean a place air can get stuck from a high place in the line
    remove the master if you have to and elevate it
    do a gravity bleed, if you have any pressure on the lever, squeeze it and crack the line at the master tighten it and see if it's better
    if you have bubbles in the master it's your bypass not working correctly as I recall
    on my KTM had that problem, removed the brake line and put my finger over the outlet to be sure I had pressure
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  3. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    and second question round or rectangular reservoir?
    early like an 85-86 style or later like 87-88 type?
  4. photoguy_43420 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Ohio
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11 Husqvarna's from 1973-2001
    Other Motorcycles:
    73 Norton Commando 850
    It's the rectangular Brembo master cylinder.
  5. fran...k. Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    eastern ct
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    420ae 98wr125 2004wr250 others
    Other Motorcycles:
    electric freeride 1993 yam gts
    I believe on two occasions I have resorted to removing the caliper and routing the line so it could be hung higher than the master cylinder. Wedge something between the pads and bleed it in that position.
  6. Krudd Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Sweden
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    89A 510TE, 89B 510TE
    Other Motorcycles:
    '81 Yamaha XT500
    I can't answer if there is something wrong with your master cyl. from your description,
    but I can give a friendly tip to use a Mityvac handpump for bleeding brakes. I got the cheapest one in plastic and it works great.

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  7. ajcmbrown Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Metung Victoria Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    400WR 250WR 07 WR500 430AE 360AE
    Other Motorcycles:
    1985 500CR Ducati Multistrada 1200S
    Have you tried strapping the lever back to the handlebar with a zip tie or bungee cord?
    This has worked for me many times if left overnight as long as the hose never gets higher than the master cylinder.
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  8. jimspac Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Connecticut
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR, 82 430WR, 84 250WR, 85 400
    Other Motorcycles:
    86 400WR, 82 Montesa Cota 349
    I have one from the 80's when they were made of aluminum. I made the mistake of loaning it to a friend and not checking it out when he returned it. A seal blew up from him drawing hydraulic fluid thru the pump. So when I needed it 10 plus years later, I had to buy the plastic unit that will not fit in the case for the original.
  9. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    remember, no good deed goes unpunished
  10. stormer254 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    England
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    More than I dare let her know
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yes!
    When I had that problem on my 430 I seem to remember I forced the fluid up from the bleed nipple up into the reservoir using a syringe. It still goes slack if not ridden for a couple of months so I tend to leave the lever bungied back to the bars!
  11. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    another vote for the mityvac...quick and easy work for any bleeding.

    yyou probably have the zinc silverline 4000 like i do with the finger grooves on the handle. you can still rebuild these.
    they can still be bought in metal..

    heres the newer zinc version
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  12. fran...k. Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    eastern ct
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    420ae 98wr125 2004wr250 others
    Other Motorcycles:
    electric freeride 1993 yam gts
    I have installed new or rebuilt master cylinder in automobile type stuff and the instructions are to bleed (pump, circulate) it back into the reservoir first, then attach it in a permanent fashion.

    Brake fluid should be changed, not that I do it right, that plastic one looks more useful for changing fluid in things. Larger volume pump.
  13. jimspac Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Connecticut
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR, 82 430WR, 84 250WR, 85 400
    Other Motorcycles:
    86 400WR, 82 Montesa Cota 349
    When I checked on the rebuild parts, they were more expensive than the plastic version I picked up. I will rebuild the original as it is still dear to me. At least I have something that works but I always prefer the way older tools were made
  14. wrx Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    845 newyork
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1973 to 1986 husky's various models
    Other Motorcycles:
    RM -250 / Buell / Penton 400 mc5
    like the new crap Craftsman is trying to pass off as tools. OLD is where it at in the tool department.
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  15. Crashaholic Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Antelope Valley, CA.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    73 450WR 6spd motor in a 75 MK frame
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  16. photoguy_43420 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Ohio
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11 Husqvarna's from 1973-2001
    Other Motorcycles:
    73 Norton Commando 850
    Thanks I will give it all a try. Got real busy have not had a chance to work on it.
  17. ruwfo Administrator

    Location:
    NJ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1980 390CR, 1982 430CR, 1984 400WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    1985 250XC, 2016 FJ-09
    Easiest way is to open the bleed screw, with a tube attached into a bottle on the ground, just keep pouring fluid into master.
    You'll need a decent amount of fluid, then tighten the bleeder screw, leave the master cover off the whole time. Now still leaving
    the master cover off, pump the brake lever real easy, you should see air bubbles rise to the top of in the master. Let the bike sit for
    a bit, the bubbles should still rise to the top & out , cause air is lighter then the fluid, and will work 99% of it's way out.
  18. suprize Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Bendigo, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR 400, bike in a box Moto Villa 350
    Other Motorcycles:
    ktm 300
    Face it, its a black magic thing....
  19. photoguy_43420 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Ohio
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11 Husqvarna's from 1973-2001
    Other Motorcycles:
    73 Norton Commando 850
    We found the problem. Piston in the brake caliper. We're sized. Thanks for all the help.