1. 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    TE = 4st Enduro & TC = 4st Cross

449/511 communication with ECU

Discussion in '4 Stroke' started by R. Stephen, Jan 21, 2014.

  1. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125
    The one I've made replaces one of the rubber D sections of the tappet gasket.
    On the CCM you would need to mount it against the exhaust cam rather than the inlet cam as we do on the 449-511.
    Should function just as well.
    Able to be reversed simply by replacing the tappet gasket. DSC_0059_1.JPG
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  2. magwych Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    France
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 450 ;CCM GP450 ;BMW R1200GSA
    Looks neat. Can you do it in CCM stealth black?
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  3. Trenchcoat85 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NorCal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '14 TE 310R
    Other Motorcycles:
    '85 shovel, '75 DT400, '97 XR400
    dmd = "dangermouse designs"?

    looks good
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  4. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125
    Trench Coat scores the prize
    Yes mate
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  5. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125
    Potentially up to CCM if they want them.
    If not, yes I can get different colour anodising applied.
    CCM_HuskyEngineBreather_Black.jpg CCM_HuskyEngineBreather_Red.jpg
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  6. Meeou Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    Reunion
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    A new release is available on Google Play Store, the 449/551 and CCM ECU can now be flashed.
  7. gillies Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Phoenix, AZ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '11 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    '09 R1200GSA
    Is this for real? Anyone done it, yet? Are there maps? I'm very curious about where this leads but don't personally have the knowledge necessary to experiment.
  8. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125
    Meeou,

    You are a life saver!!!
    I'll be trying this out very soon.

    Thanks for your efforts.
    I have not been able to zip the files I wanted to send you, as yet but will attempt to do them again.
    Screenshot_2016-08-14-10-45-26.png Screenshot_2016-08-14-10-45-37.png
  9. donjohnson Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    New Zealand
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    SMR511
    Great work guys. I'm keen to help out with mapping. Reckon we need a list of all hardware etc to get this up and running, does anyone have the part number / source for the programmer and also the Pin outs for connections?

    I can knock up a diagram and some instructions as I learn the ropes.

    I've got the PC5 with a few maps that can likely be reverse engineered back to a standard ECU map as they're all just percentages.

    Does anyone know whether you're able to flash both the base map and what is currently race map 2? Be excellent to have two maps.
  10. magwych Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    France
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 450 ;CCM GP450 ;BMW R1200GSA
    Don, the pin outs are a few posts back. I would put a link here but I am using my phone; it is hard enough fighting the auto-correct without trying to copy links as well :-)
    Regarding the 2 maps, yes they appear to be separately editable.
    I tried importing a G450X .pvm into my CCM map2, but TuneECU reckons they in compatible. You may have more luck if your .pvm (.djm) file is based on the exact same base map that you can fownliad from the ECU.
    I used an OTG cable from my Android phone to a Linlec cable . I bought from one if the links on the TuneECU site. I the had to make up my own connector to the diagnistics plug.
  11. Huskynoobee CH Sponsor ZipTy Racing

    Location:
    Castaic, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449 2006 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    HDUltra Classic IT200 YZ250 SV650s
    So, does this work on all of the 449/511 ECU? The locked 2011 TE, or will it work with the traditionally locked TC/TXC?
  12. donjohnson Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    New Zealand
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    SMR511
    Thanks magwych and everyone else, I've ordered these parts:

    USB Adapter: http://lonelec.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=57_25&product_id=52

    OBDII to bare leads: http://lonelec.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=24_61&product_id=70

    AMP Enonoseal 6-way male connector: http://www.vizi-tec.com/amp-econoseal-series-connectors/

    And wire as per domrvt's instructions:

    From the wiring diagram, the diagnostic connector pinout is:
    6 - Positive
    4 - Keyed Positive
    3 - K Line
    5 - Ground

    An OBD2 connector is:
    16 - Positive
    7 - K Line
    4 - Ground

    And Android with TuneECU, should be good to go right?
  13. magwych Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    France
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 450 ;CCM GP450 ;BMW R1200GSA
    I do not know about the Husky, but on the CCM I found you have to flick the start to wake up the ECU.
  14. magwych Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    France
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 450 ;CCM GP450 ;BMW R1200GSA
    [quote="donjohnson, post: 588007, member: 62568]
    I've got the PC5 with a few maps that can likely be reverse engineered back to a standard ECU map as they're all just percentages.

    Does anyone know whether you're able to flash both the base map and what is currently race map 2? Be excellent to have two maps.[/quote]
    It would be interedting to see those. I havevseen the .pvm file for the BM G450X runninga Leo Vince and the BM in Sport mode. It is interesting that the OC actually leans out the mapping in a few places, there are no cells where it adds fuel.
    It will also be great to compare the Husky and CCM maps.
  15. donjohnson Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    New Zealand
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    SMR511
    I can do that, I'll draw my base map and race map 2 out before flashing. Ill try to import the PCV maps I have on hand into tuneECU, and once I've been to the dyno I'll post that up.

    Bits should be here next week.
  16. magwych Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    France
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 450 ;CCM GP450 ;BMW R1200GSA
    It seems the CCM may be bit more tricksy.
    I tried to reprogram the ECU with the same map that I had just downloaded from it. It was hahaving none of that. To be fair to TuneECU they are on the case. Aparently they can reprogram the Husky ECU with my map, so it is likely something in the BMW/CCM set up or my connection.
  17. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125
    Im not convinced about this 'locked' 2011 ecu.
    I'm able to communicate and upload from the HST on my early 2011 TE.
    I had no trouble loading Map3 to it.

    For the small cost of the App and hardware, I think you'd be mad not to try it.
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  18. Huskynoobee CH Sponsor ZipTy Racing

    Location:
    Castaic, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449 2006 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    HDUltra Classic IT200 YZ250 SV650s
    I've got access to an HST and have not been able to load any maps. I can perform diagnostic functions, though. Might give it a try. Certainly couldn't hurt
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  19. Padowan Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    South-West UK
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    BMW R850GS, Yamaha TTR250
    What is the difference between RaceMap2 and Map3? I have an early (white frame) 449 (reg 2010) which is running Map2 with Akra pipe, and secondary butterfly removed. I'd like to know what benefits i might get moving to map 3 now there is a DIY way of achieving this...
  20. magwych Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    France
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 450 ;CCM GP450 ;BMW R1200GSA
    For the CCM (, and maybe the Husky too?), pins 4 and 6 of the diagnostic connector needed to be connected together to upload maps. Without that the ECU relay drops the positive feed when the ECU momentarily cuts the earth for that relay.
    If I have understood the wiring diarams correctly, this is what I think is happening: The CCM and BMW wiring only powers up the ECU when the starter button is pressed. A feed from the starter button closes the ECU relay. Once the relay is closed the positive feed from it holds it closed. When the kill switch is used it causes the ECU to drop the earth return for the relay activator, opening the main contacts and cutting the power.