• 2 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
     WR = 2st Enduro & CR = 2st Cross

  • Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

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    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

125-200cc WB165, what powerband would you like sir?

Motosportz

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As you all know I love the 165 kit Walt makes. Awesome power for my use and perfect. What i also find cool is that you can reconfigure the powerband to almost anything our like via the pipe. I like mid range and nothing does that for me like a good Doma pipe. Loved them when it was a 125 and then redid a KTM 200 Doma pipe to fit my WB165 and fell in love. Massive mid range power. Good bottom too. Capped the top some but that was not an issue for me. My beloved KTM 200 Doma pipe took one to many hits last ride and was done. (might be fixable we will see). So having tested a bunch of pipes int he past and buying a lot of KTM 200 pipes off eBay to try I have a replacement in the shop so no big deal. The pipe I switch to is one not many if anyone else has tried on the 165. It is a KTM 200 FMF SST pipe. This is made for MX I believe and traded bottom for top. It is a lot smaller than the big FAT Doma but also seems longer. Seems longer narrow = top end where fat and short = bottom and mid. I have tried so many pipes I can almost look at them and tell you what type of power they will make.

So the KTM 200 FMF SST pipe... Its a good pipe. Fits nice and does what I expected it to do. Like any pipe it is a tradeoff. I traded some bottom and mid for top with this setup. Not exactly what i wanted but in the end works fine. Buddies Blake and Jake would probably love this pipe. "they both seem to favor the less bottom more top approach. It made my bike more racy and less forgiving old man bike. The Doma was like a soft 250, short shift and lug it bottom and mid. The FMF SST is more like a FAST 125. fan the clutch and rip. At first riding it on steep single track I was slightly disappointed and wanted my Doma back. But the more I rode it and got out of old man relaxing trail mode and more run it higher RPM and boogie mode I liked it. It still lugs good, might actually be EZer to control in technical stuff and does not stop clawing forward. A fan of the clutch and it rockets away. The SST and Lectron carb were pretty fantastic on top. Lots of acceleration / speed there.

The point of this post is to let people know the 165 can be configured to run in several different ways and having a pipe or two around to play with is FUN. It is surprising how much of a difference can be had one way or another. I already knew this testing many pipes and riding differently configured 165s. Dome and FMF fatty for bottom and mid and PC, FMF SST, and HGS for mid and top.

fun.

- Thanks for the great motor Walt.
 
I love this! This is a huge reason why I bought a husky. I just hope that the 165 kit is still available next year because that's probably when I'll be able to have the cash to get it done! I'd be upset if I couldn't!
 
JRod4928 said:
I love this! This is a huge reason why I bought a husky. I just hope that the 165 kit is still available next year because that's probably when I'll be able to have the cash to get it done! I'd be upset if I couldn't!
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I can't imagine not producing the kit. I am being subjected to a 30% increase in piston prices this order and that is for a piston with no coating. I have decided to go without the moly coating due to the inconsistent results I am seeing in the last order from Wossner. These piston's are really tough and I have many hours on an uncoated piston myself. I really doubt there is any difference in longevity. Thanks Kelly for the kind words and I like it just as much as you do.
 
wallybean said:
I can't imagine not producing the kit. I am being subjected to a 30% increase in piston prices this order and that is for a piston with no coating. I have decided to go without the moly coating due to the inconsistent results I am seeing in the last order from Wossner. These piston's are really tough and I have many hours on an uncoated piston myself. I really doubt there is any difference in longevity. Thanks Kelly for the kind words and I like it just as much as you do.
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Walt you kit is underpriced and you don't make enough on it anyway, a bump in price is fine. It is a fantastic motor.
 
So if the Husky ends up with a KTM motor in a few years will there be a WB 165 kit developed for that? I know others out there make 165-167 mods for the KTM but I'd like to stay away from the high compression/race gas mandatory engines that seem to want to blow up at any moment.
 
venturini said:
So if the Husky ends up with a KTM motor in a few years will there be a WB 165 kit developed for that? I know others out there make 165-167 mods for the KTM but I'd like to stay away from the high compression/race gas mandatory engines that seem to want to blow up at any moment.
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KTM's current cylinder design does not allow boring the 150's cylinder beyond its current size reliably. It is the lack of an exhaust bridge that is the biggest part of that problem. Lots of variants on 175 or 200 motors in the 150 frame. All require large sums of money to make conversions and surround using the 200 cylinder, whether on the 150 crank or conversion to the 200 motor. Adding the 200 head/rod to the 150 crank requires a lot of work on the 200 cylinder to get the port timing correct. Once done guys really like the combination and the 175 cc's is really an ideal displacement. Expect to pay at least $2000 to do it correctly. Just wedging the 200 motor into the 150 frame is also popular and about equal or less than converting the 150 cases to run the 200 crank and cylinder. I can't see an easy way to make the conversion. Also it gets away from what I want to offer, an inexpensive variant on the 125 feel with more beans according to rider desires.

I think for the next few years anyway there will be plenty of Husky 125's around in various forms to meet anyones needs. They just won't be new. I have reserved one of the few "2014" CR125's that I will keep in a box for awhile. I really hope that "Husqaberg" offers at least their vision of a 200 if not even a better idea like bringing back the 175. There just is no way to retain the 125 feel when you go to the larger crank/rod/piston of a 200. An over square 175 allows you to keep that smaller revolving mass.
 
I'm skeptical that there will even be a Husq 125 shipped to the US in a few years---reason being that there was Husaberg 125 but it wasn't offered in the US--only the 250 and 300. A 200 would be nice but, again, no Husaberg 200 was ever offered so................... anyway, back to the topic at hand--the WB 165, my main reason for also wanting another Husq 125.
 
I could see the 125 making it here because he wants to focus on MX. There's really no cheaper way into MX than a 125. Of course I'm just guessing lol
 
venturini said:
I'm skeptical that there will even be a Husq 125 shipped to the US in a few years---reason being that there was Husaberg 125 but it wasn't offered in the US--only the 250 and 300. A 200 would be nice but, again, no Husaberg 200 was ever offered so................... anyway, back to the topic at hand--the WB 165, my main reason for also wanting another Husq 125.
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I think the first manufacturer that bites back into the trailee/vet riders that want 125 handling/response but with the bottom/mid of the 165-175 will hit a homerun. They are just so much fun to ride and still allow you to be lazy if/when you want.
 
wallybean said:
I think the first manufacturer that bites back into the trailee/vet riders that want 125 handling/response but with the bottom/mid of the 165-175 will hit a homerun. They are just so much fun to ride and still allow you to be lazy if/when you want.
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This discussion gets played out many times in my truck while making the drive to the trailhead. If this was not a shrinking industry I would be looking for investors to build a 175cc bike somewhat like the KTM freeride but USA built. 10 inches of quality travel, very simple but powerful 175 2 stroke, low seat, 180 pounds, $5000.
 
Motosportz said:
This discussion gets played out many times in my truck while making the drive to the trailhead. If this was not a shrinking industry I would be looking for investors to build a 175cc bike somewhat like the KTM freeride but USA built. 10 inches of quality travel, very simple but powerful 175 2 stroke, low seat, 180 pounds, $5000.
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Have you tested the HGS Kelly? Have you tested a 125 fatty ? My 125 fatty works well with the 165 - I know some may say its holding it back though. To me it has a strong top end and enough mid for me. There would always be more low end preferred on gnarly hills. Its never going to have a low end of a 300.
I like it that I can run either a 150 or 165 with the one pipe.
 
JRod4928 said:
I love this! This is a huge reason why I bought a husky. I just hope that the 165 kit is still available next year because that's probably when I'll be able to have the cash to get it done! I'd be upset if I couldn't!
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exactly JRod im with you, im getting a little anxious that for some reason it wont be available & its pretty much the whole reason I bought the bike! otherwise id have to settle for a 144 kit which wouldn't be the end of the world but may be close.
 
I really need to stop reading these 165 threads :thinking: No, what I need to do is sell a couple bikes just sittin' around & pick up a 125 b4 they're all gone. CR or WR, hmmmm.
 
I love my 300, but you guys really make me want to also pick up a 125 and turn it into a 165. I loved the old KDX200 I had, that motor feel in a modern chassis would be amazing!
 
Kyle Tarry said:
I love my 300, but you guys really make me want to also pick up a 125 and turn it into a 165
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I love me 300 too & its a keeper for sure, youll never be able to replace that low down grunt but the 125 is so light, nimble & fun(just hold it flat!)I can only imagine the 165 is the icing on the cake. do it Tarry, theyre as cheap as chips & if your life situation is anything like mine all itl cost you is a week without being spoken to by the missus! ahh the cold shoulder, good times. really its a win/win situation cause you get a whole week to set up ya bike without being nagged at. weather that storm then its clear sailing ahead brother!:cheers:
 
All this freaking talk on the 165 gives me the impression it ...may... be more fun than the 310R

Can anyone give a quick comparison between the 310r and 165?
 
310 is a great bike and if Walt didnt come up with the 165 I would of bought one, but personaly I just love the way the 165 always makes my face ache from all the grinning and as Kelly said its only a 5 minute pipe change to go from a screamer to a lugger or anything in between depending on the pipe so my vote goes to the 165 :applause:
 
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