TE-310 Fail

[cbutcher96]

I just got a 2012 TE-310, beautiful bike, however I keep getting fail message. The 1st time it happened on start up, cycled the key, went away, happened again thew next day, cycled the key went away, but upon riding into my garage after probably 20 min of riding it came on again. All of this happened during break in period of 2:45 hours and 70 miles of riding, but now it is doing it almost every single time, both starting and after riding. I've made sure to hold the start button firm while using hotstart as I've read not doing that can cause the fail, but it really bothers me that its happening so frequently when the bike has so few miles on it.

 

[Paul B]

if its says "FAIL 2" or "FAIL 1" its nothing to worry about as it is just to do with the map switch. I get the message every time I cycle the key as I don't have the map switch. No need for it, Just leave it in power mode.

**EDIT** Sorry just relised that yours is a 2012, what I said may not apply.

 

[DG Harv Serv]

Needs pluging in to "ibeat" to be sure .

Is it powered up ? If so check O2 Resistor plug (under Tank) . Remove and clean contacts, try again . If not Water Sensor etc....

Only needs moisture in a sensor connection to trigger "Fail" .

 

[cbutcher96]

I took the canister off and plugged the port, is the power up just referring to the o2 sensor "race plug" which I have ordered but has not been installed yet

 

[duggoey]

I took the canister off and plugged the port, is the power up just referring to the o2 sensor "race plug" which I have ordered but has not been installed yet

On my 2010 the power up consisted of:

- REMOVE THROTTLE STOP
- Remove air filter restrictor cage contraption
- Remove restrictive exhaust baffle and replace with "race" baffle/DB killer in exhaust
- Remove LAMBADA/Oxygen probe on header
- Remove catalytic converter insert (I think it is located in header midpipe between the LAMBADA probe area and the exhaust muffler)
- Change Gearing to 13/50 (mine is 14/50)
- Retune FI with Ibeat OR use a JD tuner/Power commander

The dealer in Australia did mine when I bought it though.. But all of this is do-able if you have the right bits. I dont think anyone on their right mind would buy one of these without "power up" applied.

I get a fail message on start-up (and then goes away) but I understand mine to be only caused by the lambada probe being removed.

 

[duggoey]

And also..

That ridiculous carbon canister must be a US pollution reduction addition. I have not seen it on ANY Australian bike. We have pretty strict emission regulations here too but fortunately no-one has thought of ruining it with one of those things yet..

 

[Indorider]

And also..

That ridiculous carbon canister must be a US pollution reduction addition. I have not seen it on ANY Australian bike. We have pretty strict emission regulations here too but fortunately no-one has thought of ruining it with one of those things yet..

Same spec in Indo but there are no emission/noise standards here. Sometimes it seems that vehicles are required to emit a black cloud!

 

[duggoey]

Same spec in Indo but there are no emission/noise standards here. Sometimes it seems that vehicles are required to emit a black cloud!

Had some repairs done to my turbo diesel Ford Courier ute, it actually runs more efficiently/litre of fuel with the emissions equipment off... ? Makes you wonder.

Sorry to hijack the thread cbutcher.

 

[cbutcher96]

I know, i feel like the motor is tied up and locked in the back of a trunk its so restricted, mine however doesn't have the throttle stop or air restricter but I got the LAMBADA race plug on the way

 

[AusHusky]

That ridiculous carbon canister must be a US pollution reduction addition. I have not seen it on ANY Australian bike. We have pretty strict emission regulations here too but fortunately no-one has thought of ruining it with one of those things yet..

Do you mean the cat converter? I just bought a TE450 and have been doing some reading on here. I was going to take my pipe off this weekend and see if I had the converter but do I since it's an Australian bike?

Also, there is a MAJOR rattle coming from the can. Any ideas on what or where it might be coming from? Sounds like its coming from the back of the can, maybe the spark arrestor? Is it bad to remove the spark arrestor?

Sorry to hijack this thread. Mine says fail too but only on start-up cycle.

 

[Tessier]

Is the problem that when it say's fail it stall's? or is it just saying fail when you hit the kill switch. I have noticed mine will occasionally say fail when it's shut off or stalls but have never noticed a problem with it. I put some pictures of what the power up involves here


http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/tessiers-2011-te310-upgrades-and-adventures.22550/

 

[cbutcher96]

It does it after 15 seconds of idle, displays "fail" where the odo/clock displays. Also happned 2 times after riding for 20 min. The canister I am referring to is a charcoal canister found on USA bikes only. CATs tend to be loud and smelly when 1st run so give it a few more hours before you pull it apart.

 

[duggoey]

Do you mean the cat converter? I just bought a TE450 and have been doing some reading on here. I was going to take my pipe off this weekend and see if I had the converter but do I since it's an Australian bike?

Also, there is a MAJOR rattle coming from the can. Any ideas on what or where it might be coming from? Sounds like its coming from the back of the can, maybe the spark arrestor? Is it bad to remove the spark arrestor?

Sorry to hijack this thread. Mine says fail too but only on start-up cycle.

Unless the dealer took the cat converter insert out you will have to do it. I think it just sits in there.

The noise in the can might be the baffle bouncing around, if you can stick your finger in the pipe and wabble it than its too loose. Easy fix just remove the retaining circlip, stretch it a bit and replace. Hi temp silicone or gasket maker in it helps too.

 

[AusHusky]

Thanks Duggoey, I'll check that out.