single seat registration

[Moff69]

Any of you other Aussies out there changed there TR over to a single seater?
Just been thinking about this due to the large increase in rego from a single seat to a dual seater, being around $700 for a dual seater in Queensland.

 

[Greg Jetnikoff]

yep mine is single seat reg. I got mine reg from the start ...Thankfully. Had to cut the seat down ( which I can do myself). THAT IS THE FOAM NOT THE BASE. Just pull the rear staples and cut the foam. Because of the regs requiring the seat to be no longer than 50cm in Qld. You may also have to cut the front pointless ( pun) pointy bits off the base as well to make is short enough but don't remove the locating tab. I have a Seat concepts foam on it now. You also have to remove the rear footpegs and either cut the supports orr or render them inoperable ( a poprivet is sufficient). Mine has a rack attached to the peg points, so looks like there isn't any place for the pegs. I made a carbon seat cover for the back to pretty it up a bit. I have to make a new one for the new seat.
Should be easy enough to get the machinery certificate in Cairns. My girlfriend got her Suzuki sv650 single seat reged in Cairns and it was half the price of Townsville ( Townsville was about $120for my BMW, but I went to the most expensive placeby mistake). Saved that first registration as it is about half dual seat reg.\

This is what it looked like just after I did it. The bike looks completely different now wit the single exhaust on the left and Safari tanks and Saet concepts seat.

 

[glitch_oz]

Any of you other Aussies out there changed there TR over to a single seater?

The ONLY state in AUS offering single-seat rego is Queensland.
If I'd live there, mine would be a single-seater for sure.

 

[FreddoFrog]

Hi Moff, mine is also single seat rego. Done by the shop when originally registered (on request), I just took the rear footrests off, didn't change the seat.

 

[Tom Ruxton]

process for single seating has changed markedly.
Only requirement now is to front up to motor registry put your hand on your heart an swear that you have done the mods. did mine Monday easy as.

Tom R

 

[Moff69]

Cool, will be looking into this very shortly l think. Thanks a heap guys.
Hey Greg, which single exhaust did you get, and do you think it is worth it?

 

[RidingDonkeys]

Single seat registration? I just learned something new. I'm starting to feel like the US DOT isn't so bad after all.

 

[drzcharlie]

Single seat registration? I just learned something new. I'm starting to feel like the US DOT isn't so greedy after all.

Fixed it for ya

 

[RidingDonkeys]

Fixed it for ya

Touche

 

[Greg Jetnikoff]

Moff69,
Performance exhausts in Brisbane made me a left side pipe with a std 2" outlet. I put a TYGA carbon muffler on it bought online. I asked Performance Exhausts if he can make others when I picked mine up and he said yes.
Muffler: it is the EXSL0035 model on the following page: http://tyga-performance.com/site/index.php?cPath=71_815_817&sort=2a&page=3 You could consider the EXSL-0017 as well but it is a bit louder.
DO NOT BE TEMPTED to get the Motomaggot. You won't get past the first copper. Great race muffler ( just legal) but way too loud for the street. All their stuff is beautifully made and light. I added and extra sound dampening piece to the outlet.

 

[nev..]

Single seat registration? I just learned something new. I'm starting to feel like the US DOT isn't so bad after all.

Just some info to let you compare your apples with our apples. Most if not all Australian states have compulsory third party no fault insurance schemes. The majority of the registration payment on a vehicle is actually the insurance component. If you are injured in a traffic accident, your medical bills, loss of earnings, ongoing rehab etc are covered by this insurance. Because it's compulsory everyone is covered. Because it's no-fault, you don't have to nominate a person who was responsible for the accident. If you crash your bike by yourself because you are a bad rider you are entitled to exactly the same benefits as you would be if you were run over by someone else. The insurance indemnifies any "at fault" drivers, so if you have a permanent disability you can sue the insurer for damages, not the other driver, but there are usually caps on payouts, meaning there are no lottery winners here, nor are the courts full of people suing one another frivolously.

 

[FreddoFrog]

Queensland is NOT a no fault CTP system, it is an at fault system. The rider is not covered if they are the at fault party! WA (Western Australia...not Washington!) also is an at fault system
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-10/different-rehab-for-injured-motorists/5588672

 

[RidingDonkeys]

Just some info to let you compare your apples with our apples. Most if not all Australian states have compulsory third party no fault insurance schemes. The majority of the registration payment on a vehicle is actually the insurance component. If you are injured in a traffic accident, your medical bills, loss of earnings, ongoing rehab etc are covered by this insurance. Because it's compulsory everyone is covered. Because it's no-fault, you don't have to nominate a person who was responsible for the accident. If you crash your bike by yourself because you are a bad rider you are entitled to exactly the same benefits as you would be if you were run over by someone else. The insurance indemnifies any "at fault" drivers, so if you have a permanent disability you can sue the insurer for damages, not the other driver, but there are usually caps on payouts, meaning there are no lottery winners here, nor are the courts full of people suing one another frivolously.

I'm just curious, as I've lived all over the world and not dealt with a system like this. How much does your annual registration/taxes cost on your TR? How about single versus dual seat?

(If it is too personal of a question, feel free to say so. I'm not trying to pry into anyone's finances.)

 

[V8Astro]

Just some info to let you compare your apples with our apples. Most if not all Australian states have compulsory third party no fault insurance schemes. The majority of the registration payment on a vehicle is actually the insurance component. If you are injured in a traffic accident, your medical bills, loss of earnings, ongoing rehab etc are covered by this insurance. Because it's compulsory everyone is covered. Because it's no-fault, you don't have to nominate a person who was responsible for the accident. If you crash your bike by yourself because you are a bad rider you are entitled to exactly the same benefits as you would be if you were run over by someone else. The insurance indemnifies any "at fault" drivers, so if you have a permanent disability you can sue the insurer for damages, not the other driver, but there are usually caps on payouts, meaning there are no lottery winners here, nor are the courts full of people suing one another frivolously.

Out of curiosity...do you pay separate insurance to a private company in AU ? Here in Missouri it cost me $70 to "register" my bike for a 2-year period. But insurance is separate, paid to a private company. About $330 per year

 

[Moff69]

In Queensland, the rego is all paid to the transport department, single seat rego is about $200 a year, and dual seat is about $700 a year.

 

[drzcharlie]

In Queensland, the rego is all paid to the transport department, single seat rego is about $200 a year, and dual seat is about $700 a year.

Wow that is high. My registration was $20 I think, my annual insurance for two bikes is $125 USD full coverage with full replacement. Deductible is $55.

 

[Greg Jetnikoff]

OK In Queensland (What used to be called "Third party" but has another name now) is complusory and must be purchased at time of registration. The state had an attached insurance scheme via a state owned insurance that was latter privatized. Most people just left it as the entity but you can now obtain it through another nominated insurer.
Comprehensive insurance which covers other things and property is separate and CAN be purchased separately. That will cover things like replacement ( sure) of you actual motorcycle.

 

[glitch_oz]

To make things a little clearer (as it is a stupidly baffling affair)...In Australia, every state run's its own scheme and system of vehicle registration, basic 3.party insurance and optional comprehensive insurance.

In MOST ( NOT ALL!!!) states the registration and basic 3.party (medical only, not property!!) are wrapped into annual payments of around US$ 500-750, depending on state, for bikes over 600cc (or thereabouts, lets not split hairs).
The actual registration is about $50-80 out of that, the rest is a compulsory 3.party medical insurance component which gets passed on to a state-insurance-office type of authority which also handles all medical claims resulting from vehicle accidents. No caps on medical claims!

In some states this "package" is split into registration only to be paid to the "registration authority/whatever name", and the (still compulsory) insurance component is left to the private insurance market (via a group of selected insurers) to be administered and claims to be paid.

With this, all personal claims for medical/hospital/rehab/compensation/ legal etc etc etc are covered. Up to here it's a compulsory scheme all around the country but handled and split in different ways and by different means.

Queensland is the only state that allows Single-Seat registration, whereby removal of the pillion seat obviously halves the potential medical cost as there's no pillion to get injured in the first place. No medicals, no compensation, no rehab etc (great scheme, should be universal!!)
This cuts not the actual registration cost (to the registry board), but the compulsory component of the annual 3.party medical levy.

ONLY Queensland and Western Australia still run "at-fault" schemes, for which fault has to be proven in order to receive compensation (and treatment! under those schemes). Things get messy and very murky here with various states not recognizing the covers compulsory in other states etc...high time QLD and WA pull the finger out of their bums and join the rest of the developed world :-). It's happening....but very slowly.

3.party property claims through motor vehicles are only covered by optional insurance. (roughly US$~150-200/ year per bike, depending on driving record, claims history etc)
Added to this can be fire+theft events. ( ~US$ 50-100 extra/ year and vehicle, depending on risk-ratio of area you live in, vehicle garaged or not etc )
Added to those again is cover for own property damage, making it a full-comprehensive cover. (add yet another ~US$50-100).
Then there's penalty loadings for L+P riders, age, type of bike, value insured, gear cover, mileage per year and a colourful variety of more obscure reasons, depending on if the company really wants to insure you or not).

Ideally , you're an old fart with lots of toys, never having had a claim in your life, keeping the bikes garaged in Fort Knox, never ride them and fully insure all of them so they can graciously offer a $20 discount on the 5th bike

US$600 /year for "the basics" for the Strada for me....and I expect something like ~$250-300/year for full comp due to some good driving record and no claims.

It certainly made the KLR owned in Oregon with US$88 for its first 4 years rego and US$ 170 for all insurances incl. 3.party medical and full comp to $100.000 cover an absolute laugh.
(Insurer = something "farm" I think)

 

[drzcharlie]

State Farm. That is my insurance company. Also, there is Farmers Insurance Company.

 

[Moff69]

I must apologize for my above post, rego for the dual seaters is only $450 a year in Queensland, not $700.
My original paperwork showed $700, and included stamp duties. So the Strada will be staying a dual seater.