125-200cc Ready to ride weight of a 125-144-165?

[kris merrill]

Has anyone put their small bore on a scale and check what the weight is ready to ride? I have weighed both my Wr's. The 2011 wr300 is right at 250lbs about half tank. And my 99' wr360 is at 253 with about the same fuel. I need to re weigh them with a full tank. Didn't think about that until the next day.
I'm looking for a lightweight tight nasty single track bike. I have wanted to go trials with a tank seat combo, not real sold on that. I've been with a couple that have went that route and have had reliability issues. I live in east Idaho, lots of really big hill climbs. Some straight up pinned, most super technical 1st or 2nd gear lots of direction change in super loose rock soil. I find my 300 really needs the transmision of the 360 to have the low first gear. I typically run a 12-48 on the 300 (my primary bike, the 360 needs a little work) to get a slow enough first for the ultra technical.
My dilemma. Used 125 Husqvarna's are hard to find in my area. I have found only about 4 in the 2 years I've been looking. There is a 2012 cr125-144 with low hours that come up for sale, It's priced pretty expensive and shares one of the same problems I have with my 2011 300 its too tall. I'm 5'9" about a 32" inseam and 195# no gear. If I can find a older 2000-04 for the right price, I would shave the seat (did that with my 300 and it's still to tall) and I think I could get the height right.
Solution???
I can find a Honda 95-97 cr125 all over. They shorter heigh, 191# dry has a low 1st and still a 6speed. Can only go to a 144 with some trail porting and a fww, probable have enough power for what it is? Has any one trailed a bike like that? Or should I just bike the bullet and go with the Husqvarna and wb165? I'm going to have about 2k more into that bike then the Honda. I really don't want to sink that much right now but don't know what else to do???

 

[justintendo]

i would get the bike you really want and have a good suspension shop lower the bike for you. the lowering hardly adds any cost the revalve and respring cost

 

[2premo]

i am not following your lowering need
you say your inseam is 32", mine is 30"
that's the difference between soft and hard parts if you follow my meaning
i weigh about the same and ride tricky similar terrain

on the weight there was a long thread on that specific issue, your weights are in the range one would expect
gas weighs just under 8# a gallon and they hold 3+, add coolant, oil and whatever extras such as skid plates, heavy duty tubes, tool kit and bark busters you get to 265-270 fast

 

[kris merrill]

I guess I never have commited to having the suspension lowered on a bike, that would be a good way to go and have them do o a good revalve and spring for woods while there at it. I think your right though. Get the bike I want so I'm not selling it again later.
I wear a 32, have about a 30" inseam with shoes on, had to find the measuring tape. It must be my lack of riding ability that I feel I need a bit lower bike. 1" would be perfect. I'm more in the line of a b class guy, owning a business that's busy during the good riding months doesn't help my skills any. LOL.
I did find a wet weight for the husky vs a KTM. The husky 125-144 was like about 230 wet. Can't remember exactly, forgot to wright it down.

 

[letitsnow]

I had a 1996 Honda CR125 for a while. That is NOT a bike that I would want to do any technical hill climbs on!!! My clutch hand hurts just thinking about it.

 

[wallybean]

Hi Kris,

Where in Idaho are you located? I am planning a riding weekend in Leadore on some epic high elevation single track later this summer. If you can get anywhere close, you can have a spin on mine. Sorry but once you ride it you won't go back and it will cost you the price of admission.

 

[kris merrill]

Hahaha. Love it Wallybean, I'm not sure I can wait that long. I just found a 06 Husqvarna cr125 with low use for a good price. Amazing I'm seeing a couple all the sudden. It must be in the cards. How much am I going to be into it with pipe cylinder/head work? Are you still selling the pipes? And I'll visit Motorsportz for a lectron for it. I'm just south by Idaho falls. Ledor is about a hour and 1/2 away. That's the type of riding we do all the time. I love it.

 

[kris merrill]

Thanks for the imput letitsnow. That's what I needed to hear, I've heard from a friend of a friend that it was their favorite woods bike. And he has been looking for one since.

 

[Motosportz]

For sure get the husky over a Honda, WAY more robust motors, last longer and make better power. Walts 177 is probably the ultimate bike. The Huskys do weigh a little more but are also built a lot more stout and deal with off road hammering very well.

 

[rockdancer]

From memory my 08 WR125 was 110 kg with 9 litres of fuel that's 242 lb

My '13 wr125 has a small plastic spacer added in rear shock that allows me to sit flat footed on mine - lowered nearly an 1 inch
I actually would prefer it standard for general riding but it can be handy on hills . Its very controllable on hills and I rarely fall off - just get stuck !

 

[kris merrill]

Rock dancer, did you notice a difference in handling between your 08 to the 13? The 13 is the new xlight type frame right? Is the spacer internal of the shock or external? Thanks.

 

[jman2-stroke]

I had a 1996 Honda CR125 for a while. That is NOT a bike that I would want to do any technical hill climbs on!!! My clutch hand hurts just thinking about it.

Agree. I had an 05 honda 125 and thought all 125s sucked for trail untill I found my WR125. The honda CR125 I had was only a 5 speed. You had to clutch allllll the time. I raced MX with it and did alright but thats about all its good for.

 

[rockdancer]

Rock dancer, did you notice a difference in handling between your 08 to the 13? The 13 is the new xlight type frame right? Is the spacer internal of the shock or external? Thanks.


The '13 feels like it will lift the front end more easily

I like the older ones just as much if not more - possibly a bigger feel , more stable maybe, easier to work on - more space around motor /carb
Newer cylinder has less transfer ports and was an improvement (if all else the same )

The spacer is internal - its only a couple of mm thick - should cost beer money to get installed . They have to re - gas reservoir

My bike was lowered 2 inches all around when I bought - wasn't too bad but I got it raised
Im 182cm

 

[shawbagga]

yep my 13 wr125 was 109kg(240lbs) fully fuelled(bash plate, handguards, rad guards etc). 300 was 117kg(257)

 

[kris merrill]

Thanks Shawbagga, I just picked up a 2002 wr125 that already had a uptite 167 kit on it. It doesnt have quite as much bottom end as I though it would. I haven't checked compression yet. I'm hoping to do that this weekend. I just stripped it down and am replacing a couple bearings, putting some guards on. I will weigh it out after I get it put back togeather. I might run the bike pretty stripped to save some weight, light HDPE Skid Plate, No Lights (use a superlight headlamp for mountain bikes). Ill chime in after that part is done.