Question about the "tubliss" tire system

[lankydoug]

Yeah, maybe I should but a patch inside the tire over the rimlock next time.

Three times this happened to me...in fact on every front tire I mounted on a front tubliss.

I plugged it and it hold air.

Can't believe I'm the only one.

Tires were MS-12 and the VRubber copy of the MS-12

Have you contacted Jeff Douglas at Tubliss about this? I haven't had any problems but I have asked him about tires that he recommended that work well with Tubliss. He sent me some thicker high pressure tubes for free when he found out that I was using the older design thinner tube. I was having zero issues but it came up in conversation.

Jeff is a great guy and goes out of his way to help. I would call or email him if I were you.

 

[troy deck]

any buddy no when Jeff will have his tire out last i talked 2em he said august .. said his testers n Colo had fronts and were n love with them crazy grip on everything****************************************

 

[R_Little]

Have you contacted Jeff Douglas at Tubliss about this? I haven't had any problems but I have asked him about tires that he recommended that work well with Tubliss. He sent me some thicker high pressure tubes for free when he found out that I was using the older design thinner tube. I was having zero issues but it came up in conversation.

Jeff is a great guy and goes out of his way to help. I would call or email him if I were you.

Yeah Jeff is a good guy.

I simply think I have to run a min of 10# in a front tire unless it is a desert tire.

 

[lankydoug]

Yeah Jeff is a good guy.

I simply think I have to run a min of 10# in a front tire unless it is a desert tire.

Oh, OK, I think I see what was happening. I run 10 psi in the front with a soft motocross tire but 7 1/2 with an AT81 Dunlop desert tire. Never had any problem of any kind.

 

[R_Little]

Oh, OK, I think I see what was happening. I run 10 psi in the front with a soft motocross tire but 7 1/2 with an AT81 Dunlop desert tire. Never had any problem of any kind.

Well, try 7.5psi in a moto tire and let me know what happens!

I think I'm just going too low.

 

[ptkatoomer]

Hey, I just ordered up my first Tubliss systewm for the rear tire of my scoot. Reading thru the instructions it says I shouldn't put this in a "used" tire. The tire I have now only has about 150 miles (albeit tough single-track) and the tread looks pretty nice so I hate to waste it. Anybody with experience on thise, or should I just man-up and buy a new tire?

 

[wallybean]

The conventional rim locks tend to make it so the tire doesn't seal well with the tubliss. They deform the bead. Also many times when you take it off and on a couple of times it won't want to seal.

 

[engineerk9]

I run Tubliss in both my dual-sports. Mine are the new style that came out about 18 months ago. They don't act any different aired down than they would with tubes. If I have really aired down (10lbs or less) and have to run pavement I air back up w/ my Slime compressor. On the TE630 (908 rear/DesertRace front) I pretty much leave my pressure at 12r/15f all the time. With the softer tires on the KLX (T63 r/TR8 f) 20r/17f.

Counting my buddy's 630, I've installed them on 3 bikes now. My observations:
- There's about a 50% chance you're going to have slow air loss from the low pressure side. Meaning, you may have to air up after the bike sits for a few days. Right now my TE hold pressure perfectly, the KLX front goes flat after a couple days. My buddy's TE goes low after a couple weeks. Some people add Ride-On sealant to fix this problem and seal punctures, I haven't.
- I've had no problems with the high pressure side tubes.
- I've had no tire problems whatsoever on the trail.
- I still carry a 21" tube just in case one of the bikes has a total Tubliss failure.
- You will need ~4oz of weight opposite the rim lock of the Tubliss to get balanced. All three bikes run very smooth on pavement.
- Here's what I've found best for airing the high pressure tubes: Occasionally put a gauge on them before a ride to verify they haven't lost significant air. With your air system pressure set to 100-120, hit them again with air. Don't mess with them after that. Just checking their pressure will loose 10-15lbs.

Would I do them again? Yes. The comfort of knowing I can fix a puncture with a plug&go and no pinch flats sells me.


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Have you researched the www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTjn4uUeg4M

 

[SilverBullet]

Have you researched the www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTjn4uUeg4M

So to air up or air down you need to carry a syringe and glue around with you? No rim locks? Interesting concept though.

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[engineerk9]

So to air up or air down you need to carry a syringe and glue around with you? No rim locks? Interesting concept though.

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Only the needle that's in the kit, the sealer is already inside the tyre
I've ordered a set, to trial
Will post the results in the future

 

[engineerk9]

So to air up or air down you need to carry a syringe and glue around with you? No rim locks? Interesting concept though.

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I'll carry a tubeless tyre repair kit, seems a more efficient way rather than removing the wheel, replacing the tube etc
Removes the likely-hood of pinch punctures, which destroy the tube
If they can be run on the road, at highway speeds 110-120 kph (which Tubliss can't) & still perform adequately in dirt, that would be awesome
There's always the old trick of short self-tapping screws thru' the rim into the tyre bead as second line of safety