• Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

Performance guide for 2013 TC250R

MotoMarc36

MotoMarc36

Husqvarna
Pro Class
The latest issue of MXA has a pretty cool performance guide for the '13 TC250r. They rave about the Pro-Circuit exhaust system (so does Andy Jefferson!) and the GET ignition. Several other things also. They took it from 37.8 stk HP to over 40 with no internal mods. With VP u4.4 they were at around 42, competetive with ANYTHING in the class motor-wise.:thumbsup: Interesting note the GET ignition improved power at every point on the curve but made a HUGE improvement of over 4hp after the stock RPM peak power, way better overrev power. They also said the cheaper stainless pro-circuit pipe (t5 i think?) was better than the more expensive Ti-5 because the Ti5 meats the new AMA/FIM soundtest while the cheaper one was made to pass the old AMA and current amatuer sound limit.
 
Wow good to know thanks for sharing :applause:. I just found one that I may pick up. It's either the TC or TXC 310 next for me.
 
Is that power at the wheel ?
March Australian Dirt Bike mag has a 250f shootout had a quick look only
KX won . Not sure where the Husky came but it was slowest against the clock - lap time - some 2 secs slower than KX - but very similar time to KTM . I will try to get some more info
 
Yes RWHP on a dynojet 200i i think. 2010 was like 34 RWHP. My 2004 pulled 32 on our dynojet 200 with a street tire... MXA has used the same dyno for many years. However, they never say if they use the same STREET tire on each bike, it's surprising how much difference a tire makes, and a knobby is worthless on a dyno. Interesting on the laptimes Rock, as the KTM posts insanely high HP numbers... obviously we all know HP isn't the end-all to a great bike but it sure helps!

They started the article with something like "We hated to rate the Husky last but it happens to one bike every shootout....The Husky lost but it is no loser". They consider it a serious contender and a viable choice for serious racing, unlike earlier efforts.
 
I just read that article. They spent a gob of $ for less than a 2.2 hp improvement. Seems to me the Husky is just a good port job from making 40hp and that is a lot less expensive.
 
I must have picked up last months from Barnes and noble last month. Nothing about the TC other then the 250 shootout
 
Yep the Fast guy was hard on the TC. Hey I think I saw that guy beat all those slow guys last Saturday on TV :D.
 
Russ Henry said:
I just read that article. They spent a gob of $ for less than a 2.2 hp improvement. Seems to me the Husky is just a good port job from making 40hp and that is a lot less expensive.
Click to expand...
Russ:
I have a copy of that issue too. March 2013.
There's another article in the same issue that analyzes the dyno results. See pg. 80. You'll notice the Husky has the highest peak torque of all the bikes before any mods. Torque peaks at 7.5k to 8.5k (see Akra dyno chart ). That's torque is sweet. For what I ride, I want torque not HP.
But MXA may have a good point for MX, the Husky peak HP is down 10% from the KTM peak HP. I suppose in race situations that's a difference.
Dave
 
A lot of of complaints are made not just about the amount of power but where it's made in the rev range. They say you need to ride it like a two stroke. Who cares though, the 310's cooler anyway lol (just kidding)
 
Yeah even though Dirt Rider was rough on it, several riders still liked it best for a variety of reasons, and MX PRO Chris Green seems smitten by the Huskies, loved the 125 and loves the 250F even though he acknowledges it needs a few more ponies. I think he feels a bit of the uncontrolable love WE all have for the bikes!:thumbsup:
 
everfree said:
Russ:

But MXA may have a good point for MX, the Husky peak HP is down 10% from the KTM peak HP. I suppose in race situations that's a difference.
Dave
Click to expand...

Yep. The only thing as or more important than a great laptime in MX is a great START. For equal riders HP is nice on a start. Only exceptional technique can help compensate for lower HP, and only then on short starts.

Remember where this motor was a few years ago, if this was their offering a few years ago it would have been top of the heap, the Jap bikes have come a long way HP wise the last few years. This is a raceable motor capable of winning.
 
not to be too much of a yes man but I'm at 99% agreement level on all posts by MotoMarc.

additionally as we have all stated up into the highest levels of amateur and even local pro level that TC250 is a machine capable of winning on any day with right guy on the seat. As far as top tier pro levels we all know a good team will be able to hotrod the thing and build it to race heads up with the now big 5, again with the right guy on the seat and a team with cash that steps up to take on the brand......I pray for a ProCircuit satellite team type deal.
PS I'm getting the hang of the 310r now, its a brilliant bike package.
 
Heck of a lot of effort for 2.2 HP, no doubt. From the dyno charts, the Husky was making the top HP at 8,000 rpm ! You would think that's in a good rpm range... they're getting the 2.2 above 10,000 rpm. Is a pro rider really slamming it that hard? All the time?

robertaccio said:
PS I'm getting the hang of the 310r now, its a brilliant bike package.
Click to expand...

Tell us more on the 310 R. Are you now on a 2013 red head?
 
MotoMarc36 said:
The latest issue of MXA has a pretty cool performance guide for the '13 TC250r. They rave about the Pro-Circuit exhaust system (so does Andy Jefferson!) and the GET ignition. Several other things also. They took it from 37.8 stk HP to over 40 with no internal mods. With VP u4.4 they were at around 42, competetive with ANYTHING in the class motor-wise.:thumbsup: Interesting note the GET ignition improved power at every point on the curve but made a HUGE improvement of over 4hp after the stock RPM peak power, way better overrev power. They also said the cheaper stainless pro-circuit pipe (t5 i think?) was better than the more expensive Ti-5 because the Ti5 meats the new AMA/FIM soundtest while the cheaper one was made to pass the old AMA and current amatuer sound limit.
Click to expand...

What is this GET ignition?


And that Kris <whoever> is off my Christmas card mailing list ... He used the word slow so often, he was probably getting bonus pay each time he used the word ... Looked almost scripted to me the way he kept using that one word ...

MotoMarc36 said:
Yep. The only thing as or more important than a great laptime in MX is a great START. For equal riders HP is nice on a start. Only exceptional technique can help compensate for lower HP, and only then on short starts.

Remember where this motor was a few years ago, if this was their offering a few years ago it would have been top of the heap, the Jap bikes have come a long way HP wise the last few years. This is a raceable motor capable of winning.
Click to expand...

And lets don't forget what that 100cc less bike did to the 450s in MXdN this past year and in the MX racing in EU for the last few yrs ...
 
Russ Henry said:
About $1k per pony. I have heard a good porting job is $300 to $400 and gives about a %10 increase in torque and power. If that is true then that would be close to a 3.9 increase for the stocker.
Click to expand...
Yea, that's ridiculous. We do the crankshaft mod, extreme porting with mirror polishing and use the powercommander.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top