125-200cc NOT running rich but still lots if spooge??

[Yellowfin]

So my '13 wr144 is running great, it bigs a bit only if i have been putting in the woods until it clears out. Lectron 36mm carb w/ms3 rod and ngk br9eg plug

Plug is a nice shade of mocha and bike starts first kick even cold.

The issues is that everything is cover in spooge at the end of my ride. Swing arm, caliper, liscense plate, rear fender.

I have been using motorex crosspower 2t at 40:1

Anyone have any ideas?? Also the motor never gets that hot, the pipe gets hot but not enough to burn like my kdx did

Thanks, love this little bike!'

 

[Motosportz]

Might try different oils. I never jet per spooge. Your bike runs great and the plug looks great so dont change that. 40:1 is right IMHO. Lots of trail ridden bikes spooge a lot because you are not wringing it out and getting the combustion / exhaust temps up. Some oils spooge far less than others. Might try some different oils and see if that helps.

 

[NCSteve]

Not sure about Motorex Crosspower, but you might try a lower flash point oil like AMSoil Intercepter @50:1
Using "racing" oil to trail ride could cause excess spooge

 

[justintendo]

does the bike smoke as well?

 

[Darkside]

I just switched to Motul 710 from Motul 800. I read that 710 has a lower flash point. Since swithcing, no spooge!

 

[Yellowfin]

Yes bike does smoke as all 2 strokes do, its no my crank seal as im not losing any oil at all.

It really only smokes bad when its loaded up

 

[JPinNC]

http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/971788-what-pre-mix-oil-are-you-using-and-why/

I hope it is OK to post a thread from another forum. I was just doing some research on this last eve and came across this list of 2 stroke oils and their respective flashpoints. I personally use Maxima K2. The flashpoint of Motorex Cross Power is actually pretty low and very close to Maxima K2. I used Motul 710 in the past, I believe it is OK for auto-injectors and as I recall it poured really thin - nothing scientific about that though. Motul 800 does have a high flashpoint and might not be best for slower trailwork. Anyway, I thought the list was pretty comprehensive and worth sharing.

 

[Zomby woof]

I had big spooge with Motul 800 that completely went away when I switched to Amsoil Dominator.

 

[Yellowfin]

Ok, i am gonna give amsoil a try when i use up all my premix

 

[justintendo]

doesnt get much cleaner than amsoil

 

[mikebru]

I use amsoil interceptor at 50:1 with minimal oil leakage.

Only issue is that I have to order it from amsoil direct. Can't find it around here.

 

[MotoMarc36]

Good info here already and it is an exhaustgas temperature thing, unless you ring it's neck and keep the powervalves open 90% of the time you will need a very low flashpoint oil to not get at least some unburnt oil. I use Klotz R50 at 32:1, flashpoint of 550 deg, with no spooge, for comparison.

 

[Yellowfin]

Thanks for the responses! Finally the site seems to be working again!

 

[Darkside]

Yes bike does smoke as all 2 strokes do, its no my crank seal as im not losing any oil at all.

It really only smokes bad when its loaded up

If your bike is loading up, you may need to change your jetting. My orange bike was loading up on long downhills. went 1 clip leaner on the needle and I think 1/4 turn out on the airscrew.

 

[justintendo]

Good info here already and it is an exhaustgas temperature thing, unless you ring it's neck and keep the powervalves open 90% of the time you will need a very low flashpoint oil to not get at least some unburnt oil. I use Klotz R50 at 32:1, flashpoint of 550 deg, with no spooge, for comparison.

i use klotz super techniplate that has some castor and i know its a higher flaspoint as well. very little spooge, but my header is sealed to the jug with orange rtv. never notice much at the silencer on any of my bikes. they get run but also get long downhills and tight trails at times. never really notice a need to clear them out after technical sections, especially with the lectron 360

 

[Motosportz]

found this on the web and thought it was interesting info...

1. Motul 800 2T Factory Line "Offroad" is 485.6 degrees**************************************** <---

contain a LOT of veggie and coconut derivatives.
2. Bel-Ray H1-R has a flashpoint of 435.2 degrees It also burns really clean on one aircraft motor piston test i saw.
3. Motul 800 2T Factory Line "Road Racing" is 284 degrees.
4. Amsoil Saber Outboard is 248 degrees.
5. Maxima K2 has a flashpoint of 240 degrees.
6. Amsoil Saber Professional is 237 degrees.
7. Redline Racing Synthetic is 217.
8. Pennzoil Multi-purpose 2 cycle oil is 212 degrees.
9. Bel-Ray MC-1 is 208.4 degrees.
10. Golden Spectro 2T is 205 degrees.
11. Amsoil Dominator is 198 degrees.
12. Spectro "Golden" SX is 196 degrees.
13. Spectro "Platinum" SX is 191 degrees.
14. Amsoil Interceptor is 187 degrees.
15. Golden Spectro Injector is 178 degrees.
16. Valvoline 2 Stroke motorcycle oil is 172 degrees.
17. Torco GP-7 is only 74 degrees and that shit smells like soap!

 

[justintendo]

74 degrees? how can it be so low? thats like room temp?

 

[Xcuvator]

74 degrees? how can it be so low? thats like room temp?

Most likely 74 dgrees Celsius which would be 165F

 

[justintendo]

yes their site says celsius...lol, i was gonna say...you unscrew the bottle and the stuff starts smoking before you pour it in your can?

 

[Xcuvator]

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