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Making sense of the Golden Tyre rear enduro models??

Cosmokenney

Cosmokenney

Husqvarna
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I'm looking for a rainy season rear tire. I am currently running Battlecross X30s front and rear, but they are not working so well, in our uphill scenarios, now that it's raining more often than not. We ride on mostly wet slick clay type mud, very smooth with almost no rocks, until the uphills that is. Almost all of our climbs are laced with embedded rocks and roots. So add rain to that and relatively stiff intermediate terrain tires that are coated with slick clay mud, and you quickly come to a stop on any raised rock or root on climbs. I have no complaints about the X30s in our dry summer conditions -- one of the better tires I've used, for the record. But it is very obvious that I need a winter tire.

I'm going to get a GT 216 AA fatty for the front and run tubeless front/rear. But what I cannot figure out is which rear Golden Tyre will work well in the above described situations. Our rainy season is now through early April, so I'll probably get about 40 to 100 hours of riding in during that time. Do you think the gummy rear 216 will hold up that long? This chart from GT doesn't help much.
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I'm running a 216 Gummy rear and it works well. I only have 15 hours on it, but not showing much wear. We run very similar terrain to you, but with more roots on the level possibly. Very little is actually level.... if you aren't going up or downhill, it's off camber!

Typical hill, laced with roots and rocks. The Gummy hooks up!
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Hmmm... I don't know $200 for a pair of GTs or $140 for a pair of Battlecross X20s which are the soft version of the X30s I'm using now. Decisions, decisions.
 
Cosmokenney said:
Hmmm... I don't know $200 for a pair of GTs or $140 for a pair of Battlecross X20s which are the soft version of the X30s I'm using now. Decisions, decisions.
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I get a pair of Kendas, even cheaper than that and was reluctant to spend the money..... I have to say that it's money well spent for the wet riding season. If I stick with GT, I'd switch to enduro compound 216 rear for enduros with road sections next race season.
 
Why not try the Sedona 880? It's cheap, very tough and supposed to work well with Tubliss. I've got one waiting and it looks very good, FIM like, revearseable, hard compound knobs.
Also, M5B should work well as long as you stay off the roads and hard pack. VE33 works well everywhere and has super-tough sidewall, so should work well with Tubliss at low pressure.
I like the GT stuff, but lots of cheaper options out there that work well. I was just looking at X20s last night and they look very good and nice prices.

:cheers:
 
I don't know much about tires, so I could be mistaken on the MX51. I went through a trials tire phase for a long time so that's mostly what I know.
 
MX51 rear was ok around here, but didn't last long. A buddy "invested" in a set of mx31 on his yz280, said they were good track tires, but only lasted one weekend of HS. I haven't tried the 32 or 52, because there are so many other good tires for less. Tubliss is a game changer supposedly and a number of $60-70 tires work well.
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That's Shinko 520 on the left and Sedona 880. I've got the Shinko mounted with Tubliss and will test it as soon as it stops raining. I think the Shinko will handle the fire roads well, but may falter in the boggy woods and the Sedona will work well everywhere, but wear fast because of the fireroading I do to get to the trail heads. :cheers:
 
Cosmokenney said:
I'm looking for a rainy season rear tire. I am currently running Battlecross X30s front and rear, but they are not working so well, in our uphill scenarios, now that it's raining more often than not. We ride on mostly wet slick clay type mud, very smooth with almost no rocks, until the uphills that is. Almost all of our climbs are laced with embedded rocks and roots. So add rain to that and relatively stiff intermediate terrain tires that are coated with slick clay mud, and you quickly come to a stop on any raised rock or root on climbs. I have no complaints about the X30s in our dry summer conditions -- one of the better tires I've used, for the record. But it is very obvious that I need a winter tire.

I'm going to get a GT 216 AA fatty for the front and run tubeless front/rear. But what I cannot figure out is which rear Golden Tyre will work well in the above described situations. Our rainy season is now through early April, so I'll probably get about 40 to 100 hours of riding in during that time. Do you think the gummy rear 216 will hold up that long? This chart from GT doesn't help much.
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fyi: GT216 THB (winter, wet) GOP3168THB 140 / 80
GT216 HBN (summer, dry) GOP3168HBN 140 / 80

from this thread: http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/gt216aa-fronts.82019/
 
NCSteve said:
I haven't tried the 32 or 52, because there are so many other good tires for less.
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After reading so many good reviews on the 52, I put one on the back of my 150. It lasted very well, as I ride mostly hard pack, but it was probably the worst rear tire I've ever used, as far as traction is concerned. It was unpredictable, and I crashed in almost every event last season because of it. You never knew when the rear was going to come around on you. Back to my default tire, MH3
 
The funny thing about all these tire threads is that if you asked a bunch of desert racers what the best tire is, you'd be hearing nothing but praise for the mx51 and 52 because we just don't get piles of wet leaves hiding roots and rocks.

I know Ajaxauto loves the Golden 523 and I must say my experience with them has been good, especially with a soft slightly shrunken mousse. The 216 gummy does seem to be the go to nasty slick shit tire. Just ask Jarvis right?

Ask a bunch of guys about tires, oil, suspension services, fuel mixture, fuel types and additives, and you will get answers from all across the range.
 
Huskynoobee said:
The funny thing about all these tire threads is that if you asked a bunch of desert racers what the best tire is, you'd be hearing nothing but praise for the mx51 and 52 because we just don't get piles of wet leaves hiding roots and rocks.

I know Ajaxauto loves the Golden 523 and I must say my experience with them has been good, especially with a soft slightly shrunken mousse. The 216 gummy does seem to be the go to nasty slick shit tire. Just ask Jarvis right?

Ask a bunch of guys about tires, oil, suspension services, fuel mixture, fuel types and additives, and you will get answers from all across the range.
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Yea, that's why I tried to be careful about explaining my intended use and riding conditions. For my dry summer riding the X30s are really well. So I have a dry season tire. For the winter, though I need something completely different than an intermediate terrain tire. The trails here have tons of polished rocks that when wet and muddy are impossible to get traction on. I put in an order for a set of GT 216s. Gummy rear, fatty front.
 
My 2015 300 xc w came with shit at81s. I found some sucker to buy them for 120 bucks. I have a 216AA front and Sedona 907 rear mounted now. Both tubliss. I'm not a dunlop fan to say the least.
 
Cosmokenney said:
Yea, that's why I tried to be careful about explaining my intended use and riding conditions. For my dry summer riding the X30s are really well. So I have a dry season tire. For the winter, though I need something completely different than an intermediate terrain tire. The trails here have tons of polished rocks that when wet and muddy are impossible to get traction on. I put in an order for a set of GT 216s. Gummy rear, fatty front.
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You asked a very specific question and I understood what you were asking, ride in pretty similar conditions and answered you about the tires you asked about, as I have experience with them. We don't really have a dry season here, just a less wet one.
 
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