Did a big group ride yesterday. Was a great ride with a bunch of semi fast guys with all sorts of bikes. Guy I had never met had a 2013 Beta 300RR and I asked him for a rip on it, no problem. Cool. God a nice long ride through tight woods on it. Here are my feelings.
Bike is has the 48mm sach forks and sachs shock both redone for 180 pound B class woods racer, bigger tank and some other stuff.
Ergonomics:
Very nice. Felt natural. Felt a little bigger / wider than my 09 WR144. Other than he had his clutch adjusted off for me the bike fit me real good. No issues there.
Motor:
Gobs of very linear power from bottom to top. Will lung forever, will not stall, pulls smooth and without dips or surges in the powerband. Very electric. Very fast if you want, docile if not. Reminds me of a GG motor some. Transmission seemed very nice, shifted EZ nice wide spread of gears. Was riding tight woods but did hit some transfer gravel roads and it was stinking fast on top as well. Oh, E-start worked flawlessly. Nice.
Suspension:
As I have said these were totally reworked so have no idea stock. Was super plush. Maybe to soft for me. Really soaked up trail trash and roots and rocks nice. Some of the most compliant suspension I have ridden. That said it did not feel to loose or excessively blow though the travel. Very comfortable ride.
Handling:
Handled really nice. Seems semi neutral. Turned quick but also felt pretty stable. Did have a little of the KTM floppy (back and forth) front end feel so prominent in bikes these days. I sell lots of KTM dampers to take care of this and this bike is not as bad as that but would still run a steering damper if it was mine. Overall I liked the handling and it worked good. No real complaints.
Thoughts:
I liked the bike a lot. The motor is amazing, gobs of power but EZ to control. Nothing jumped out at me that needed attention / fixed. Seems like a well sorted bike and exactly what i was expecting after reading about them and talking with friends and customers that have them. Nice smooth neutral EZ to ride trail bike. That said it is one of those bikes that can make you ride lazy. Is almost smooth and neutral to a fault for me. Mad me want to sit down and grunt it around. For a lot of people this will be fantastic. I liked it but my 125/144/165 bike make me want to get up off the seat and ride. The Beta owner was not wild over my 144. liked it but said it took to much effort to ride. They are for sure different creatures. You have to want it on the 144 where you don't have to do much at all on the Beta 300. The Beta felt wider and more heavy to me despite some saying it feels 125 light. It did not for me. Felt like a super well setup KTM300 to me. I am not knocking this bike at all, in fact I really like it but it is what it is. I am faster on my 144 int he tight words for sure. If I had spent more time on it that might change but the way you have to ride the 144 all standing up and hair on fire (much more active ride) urges me to get up and go. the super polished nature of the Beta makes me want to sit down and twist that thing on the right handlebar some. :>) I don't know the guy who owned it or his abilities but out of a faster group of 15 guys we started off he was 2nd in line behind our leader for the day. Big group rides always find their natural order with the faster guys ending up up front. He started out 2nd place as he knows this group of people. He quickly got tired me me on his ass and let me by. I could gap him pretty EZ. Not bragging at all just saying that he seemed like a real good rider on a really nice machine but I had no issues leaving him on my 09 WR144. That said this was all very tight 1-3 gear stuff where an active riding on a 125 based bike was a good setup.
Summery:
Loved the bike. Everything about it works very good. Pretty much what I expected. I used to ride 250-450 bikes and moved tot he 125 class bikes because I feel it makes me a better rider and keeps me in active zone. Bike like this make me lazy and loose some focus. Its just me, I love ringing the neck of the little bikes. That said if and when I am in the market for a 250/300 this one is at or near the top of my list of bikes. I really think it is a great bike. did it make me want to sell one of my 125's and get one? No not really. I feel for the type of riding I do the 165 is perfect.
For anyone looking for a great do it all and super accommodating bike the Beta is going to be very hard to beat. Great looking, fantastic working do it all bike. Wish they would build a 175. Thats a machine I would run over people to acquire.
Bike is has the 48mm sach forks and sachs shock both redone for 180 pound B class woods racer, bigger tank and some other stuff.
Ergonomics:
Very nice. Felt natural. Felt a little bigger / wider than my 09 WR144. Other than he had his clutch adjusted off for me the bike fit me real good. No issues there.
Motor:
Gobs of very linear power from bottom to top. Will lung forever, will not stall, pulls smooth and without dips or surges in the powerband. Very electric. Very fast if you want, docile if not. Reminds me of a GG motor some. Transmission seemed very nice, shifted EZ nice wide spread of gears. Was riding tight woods but did hit some transfer gravel roads and it was stinking fast on top as well. Oh, E-start worked flawlessly. Nice.
Suspension:
As I have said these were totally reworked so have no idea stock. Was super plush. Maybe to soft for me. Really soaked up trail trash and roots and rocks nice. Some of the most compliant suspension I have ridden. That said it did not feel to loose or excessively blow though the travel. Very comfortable ride.
Handling:
Handled really nice. Seems semi neutral. Turned quick but also felt pretty stable. Did have a little of the KTM floppy (back and forth) front end feel so prominent in bikes these days. I sell lots of KTM dampers to take care of this and this bike is not as bad as that but would still run a steering damper if it was mine. Overall I liked the handling and it worked good. No real complaints.
Thoughts:
I liked the bike a lot. The motor is amazing, gobs of power but EZ to control. Nothing jumped out at me that needed attention / fixed. Seems like a well sorted bike and exactly what i was expecting after reading about them and talking with friends and customers that have them. Nice smooth neutral EZ to ride trail bike. That said it is one of those bikes that can make you ride lazy. Is almost smooth and neutral to a fault for me. Mad me want to sit down and grunt it around. For a lot of people this will be fantastic. I liked it but my 125/144/165 bike make me want to get up off the seat and ride. The Beta owner was not wild over my 144. liked it but said it took to much effort to ride. They are for sure different creatures. You have to want it on the 144 where you don't have to do much at all on the Beta 300. The Beta felt wider and more heavy to me despite some saying it feels 125 light. It did not for me. Felt like a super well setup KTM300 to me. I am not knocking this bike at all, in fact I really like it but it is what it is. I am faster on my 144 int he tight words for sure. If I had spent more time on it that might change but the way you have to ride the 144 all standing up and hair on fire (much more active ride) urges me to get up and go. the super polished nature of the Beta makes me want to sit down and twist that thing on the right handlebar some. :>) I don't know the guy who owned it or his abilities but out of a faster group of 15 guys we started off he was 2nd in line behind our leader for the day. Big group rides always find their natural order with the faster guys ending up up front. He started out 2nd place as he knows this group of people. He quickly got tired me me on his ass and let me by. I could gap him pretty EZ. Not bragging at all just saying that he seemed like a real good rider on a really nice machine but I had no issues leaving him on my 09 WR144. That said this was all very tight 1-3 gear stuff where an active riding on a 125 based bike was a good setup.
Summery:
Loved the bike. Everything about it works very good. Pretty much what I expected. I used to ride 250-450 bikes and moved tot he 125 class bikes because I feel it makes me a better rider and keeps me in active zone. Bike like this make me lazy and loose some focus. Its just me, I love ringing the neck of the little bikes. That said if and when I am in the market for a 250/300 this one is at or near the top of my list of bikes. I really think it is a great bike. did it make me want to sell one of my 125's and get one? No not really. I feel for the type of riding I do the 165 is perfect.
For anyone looking for a great do it all and super accommodating bike the Beta is going to be very hard to beat. Great looking, fantastic working do it all bike. Wish they would build a 175. Thats a machine I would run over people to acquire.
