Help buying the correct SM wheels

[not-A-clue]

Hi Everyone

I have had my 09 TE610 for a weekend now and loved the little riding I have done.

I have read as many posts as I can find here and on the other forums regarding TE, SM conversions, but I am still struggling.

I want to do a cheap conversion that can switch back to original rims quickly and easily on a Friday night so I can hit the trails Saturday morning.

I am looking to buy a 2nd hand set of road bike wheels, something like these http://cgi.ebay.com.au/KTM-Motard-Wheels_W0QQitemZ230424090991QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories?hash=item35a658996f#ht_1064wt_1165 but I am not sure what I need the to confirm with the seller and what answers I should be getting back.

I assume I need to know the size and width of the rims, the width of the hub and the axle size the fit. Can some please help with these details and anything else I need to know.

I really appreciate any advice or links to posts containing the info.

Cheers

Craig

 

[LRPct]

I've never dealt with these guys but I've heard good things about them.

http://www.motostrano.com/sucoki.html

I'm sure others that have actually done the conversion will chime in.

 

[mtne]

I'm in process. I bought a set of stock SM610 wheels. I'm currently trying to find the best option for a TE style front rotor to use, 260mm, floating wave as thick as possible... up to 4mm. Another downside to the SM hub is that the mount bolts for the rotor are 8mm rather then the TE 6mm. So I'll have to drill out the TE style rotor to 8mm if I can't locate a 4 bolt pattern 260mm rotor already good for 8mm.

Motorsportz has the Braking brand, 3.15mm, fixed wave. Not listed or shown on their website but found here on CH


And adventure workshop has galfer, 3mm thick floating wave.

For the SM application I would prefer floating. Thicker as I'm concerned about warpage under heavy braking on such a small surface. I'll keep the SM 320mm disk, calipers, Master and relocation bracket for now just in case the 260 can cut it. But I'd much rather not have to deal with that swapping up as more drilling and modding is required.

If your getting 17" aftermarket hubs and wheels you might look for info on Supermotojunkie.com in the husky section.

Does anyone know if there are other dirtbike manufactures that use the same 4 bolt pattern with the right spacing?

 

[rajobigguy]

If you're not using wheels that are specifically made for Husky then you will need to to quite a bit of fabrication to make them work. I'm not saying that it can't be done but if you don't have access to a fairly well equiped machine shop it could be a pretty daunting task.

 

[mtne]

If you're not using wheels that are specifically made for Husky then you will need to to quite a bit of fabrication to make them work. I'm not saying that it can't be done but if you don't have access to a fairly well equiped machine shop it could be a pretty daunting task.

I had a woodys cush hub on my KTM 525 and put it on my husky. Just had to swap bearings to change the I.D. to match the husky axle and have two spacers machined. It wasn't that bad really. Should be about the same for the front I would think.

Expensive as hell but Woodys Wheel Works can build wheels for you on Husky matched billet hubs.

 

[not-A-clue]

Thanks for the info, I think I will try harder to find a set of Husky rims.

Will a set of wheels off a 2003 TE610 fit the 2009?

Thanks again for your assistance.

Cheer

 

[rajobigguy]

I had a woodys cush hub on my KTM 525 and put it on my husky. Just had to swap bearings to change the I.D. to match the husky axle and have two spacers machined. It wasn't that bad really. Should be about the same for the front I would think.

Expensive as hell but Woodys Wheel Works can build wheels for you on Husky matched billet hubs.

The problem is that the wheels he is looking at are mags so there is no oportunity to swap out hubs. Anything that needs to be modified is going to have to be the entire wheel, so unless the side to side spacing and rotor offset is already right then it could be a can of worms.

 

[mtne]

ahh, missed the mags part. Yeah that would be tricky to find a match on........

 

[restukey]

Kirk at FactoryProRacing.com sells sumo wheels on Husky hubs. I did buy a set of 17 inchers from him awhile back, Excel rims on husky hubs, and they had the correct offset. No chain rub with a 160 Pirelli on a 5 inch rim. I did see he had a 16.5 front and 17 x 5 rear in blingy red. If you don't do rain riding, Bridgestone grooved slicks are might sticky. I don't think there is much offering for 16.5 DOT tires at the moment.

 

[Bones]

I have a full set off an 07 SM510 that fit on my TE610 no problem.

 

[not-A-clue]

I have a full set off an 07 SM510 that fit on my TE610 no problem.

Thanks Bones

Does anyone have an opinion on the 03 wheels fitting an 09?

Thanks again for all the input.

Cheers

Craig

 

[Bones]

Thanks Bones

Does anyone have an opinion on the 03 wheels fitting an 09?

Thanks again for all the input.

Cheers

Craig

FWIW I had a spare 18" rear dirt wheel from an 01 TE450 and it fit fine on my 08. I would imagine rears from ~01-up will work, front should hub wise, but I need to have a custom spacer made for my 17" front since it is offset by 1/8". I have not looked too far into it, much just saw it in another thread here yesterday. I planned to ask Hall's when I go in for a visit in the near future.

 

[Rockchucker22]

The easiest way would be to get a extra set of TE wheels and have them laced 17"

 

[Bones]

The easiest way would be to get a extra set of TE wheels and have them laced 17"

Easiest is not always cheap unfortunately.

FYI I had a spare 18" wheel that was going to get turned into a 17. I called Woody's and seeing how I could not find a front hub, his price was almost $1300 for laced up 17's with my stock rear hub and a RAD front hub. THEN I need to buy tires, tubes, rotors, sprocket, shipping. It's far from cheap if you have it done by a reputable shop like Woody.

 

[mtne]

Easiest is not always cheap unfortunately.

FYI I had a spare 18" wheel that was going to get turned into a 17. I called Woody's and seeing how I could not find a front hub, his price was almost $1300 for laced up 17's with my stock rear hub and a RAD front hub. THEN I need to buy tires, tubes, rotors, sprocket, shipping. It's far from cheap if you have it done by a reputable shop like Woody.

Woodys does good work but it's not inexpensive.... I'm about 5 minutes down the road from the shop and it's fun to stop in there and BS with the old man. I was looking at 2k+ for a full woodys set up so I went with doormandans spare SM wheels....... basically half price. Reminds me I need to decide on a rotor...... kicker is I think my front started to warp on the TE now too..........

 

[Rockchucker22]

Easiest is not always cheap unfortunately.

FYI I had a spare 18" wheel that was going to get turned into a 17. I called Woody's and seeing how I could not find a front hub, his price was almost $1300 for laced up 17's with my stock rear hub and a RAD front hub. THEN I need to buy tires, tubes, rotors, sprocket, shipping. It's far from cheap if you have it done by a reputable shop like Woody.

That is insane source the parts your self 120-150 for the rim 80 for the spokes....1100 to lace it up. NO WAY!!!200 at most.I'm not saying woodies isn't good just not that($) good.

 

[Bones]

That is insane source the parts your self 120-150 for the rim 80 for the spokes....1100 to lace it up. NO WAY!!!200 at most.I'm not saying woodies isn't good just not that($) good.

I don't think Woody is raping anyone. Are your spokes HD like he uses? Excel rims? Superlace? Labor? He clearly stated he gets other companies lace jobs in to have him redo their work. Cocky? Maybe somewhat....maybe his reputation is deserving. I was with a hot rod buddy and watched him pay a reputable pinstriper $800 to put some stripes on his 58 Chevy Apache..took him 45 minutes...was that pissing away money too?

Yes he is expensive, to some that is worth it, some think businesses are not out to make a profit I would have paid him in a heartbeat as there is nobody in my area that can or will do it. I look at is as a sort of art form.

Gotta pay to play. Wow I really ranted there. sorry.

 

[Doormandan]

Woodys does good work but it's not inexpensive.... I'm about 5 minutes down the road from the shop and it's fun to stop in there and BS with the old man. I was looking at 2k+ for a full woodys set up so I went with doormandans spare SM wheels....... basically half price. Reminds me I need to decide on a rotor...... kicker is I think my front started to warp on the TE now too..........

I paid $1800.00 from Halls Rims tires rotors and some plastic for my TE set up witch replaced my SM set up I sold to you, I felt at that time I got a great deal on the rims and hubs and would still go the same route. Halls might gave me a big discount because the original plan was to use some red (Rad Hubs) that they got stuck with but Jeff could not get the spacing correct and after several weeks and a lot of trial and error he sent me a set of factory hubs with black Excel rims, bead locks and some MT21 tires. IMO Halls has great customer service. I would strongly recommend them.

Dan L

 

[mtne]

That is insane source the parts your self 120-150 for the rim 80 for the spokes....1100 to lace it up. NO WAY!!!200 at most.I'm not saying woodies isn't good just not that($) good.

Well then I expect to see you selling whole wheels here shortly, I'm sure you'll make a killing...........

 

[Rockchucker22]

I don't think Woody is raping anyone. Are your spokes HD like he uses? Excel rims? Superlace? Labor? He clearly stated he gets other companies lace jobs in to have him redo their work. Cocky? Maybe somewhat....maybe his reputation is deserving. I was with a hot rod buddy and watched him pay a reputable pinstriper $800 to put some stripes on his 58 Chevy Apache..took him 45 minutes...was that pissing away money too?

Yes he is expensive, to some that is worth it, some think businesses are not out to make a profit I would have paid him in a heartbeat as there is nobody in my area that can or will do it. I look at is as a sort of art form.

Gotta pay to play. Wow I really ranted there. sorry.

It must be just me cause I aslo would not pay 800 for pinstiping............No doubt lacing is an art and if done wrong could be a costly mistake.

Well then I expect to see you selling whole wheels here shortly, I'm sure you'll make a killing...........

I can't (I'm a wood butcher)but my mechanic friend has done several for me and he does a real nice job. Always HD spokes and excel rims.