BMW's G450x motor finds another home

[7point62]

Not content with powering the 449 / 511 it seems that the folks at Munich have been tempted to punt a few a few lumps in the direction of CCM for this mini adventure bike:

Posted on January 21, 2013 by Rally Raid
We saw the first prototype from CCM Motorcycles of their new 450cc Adventure bike today,at the NEC in Birmingham.
It will use the BMW-supplied powerplant,fuel injection & air filter assembly in their own uniquely designed forged aluminium frame.
The main rear moulded fuel tank,and the front left side moulded fuel tanks will hold 17 litres,whilst the dummy right side tank contains the air filter,for easy access.
Suspension will be 48mm forks,with linkage rear suspension,with novel electronic preload adjustment,to change settings from the switch visible in front of the bars.
This can allow adjustment for luggage weight & riding conditions,on the move.
We,at Rally-Raid Products,have been involved with this project for the last 12 months,making development parts,and are pleased to see the first show bike.
Expected production of a trail/supermoto & adventure versions are autumn 2013.
They already have a test trail version being ridden,with favourable results.

http://www.rally-raidproducts.co.uk/blog/2013/01/ccm-450-adventure/

For those wot don't know: CCM is a small british company who (amongst other things) specialise in building chassis around other people's motors. More recently (and worryingly) they've been selling rebadged far eastern tackle too. I've had a quick snoop round their site and I can't seem to find a mention of the adventure bike anywhere. Very odd.

 

[Motosportz]

Not only the motor but 511 muffler, switch gear, TR650 rear rack and rear fender. TR650 single radiator? Looks like KTM triple clamps and swing arm. Interesting.

 

[ray_ray]

Put some decent tires on it and it might be perfect for here ... But too expensive also for here and zero will be sold ...

 

[robertaccio]

History, CCM was reknowned for building the BSA singles into GP MX winning fabbed customs and have never really disappeared using the Rotax single, DRZ400 and other sourced powerplants for their projects.
http://www.b50.org/ccm.htm

 

[Motosportz]

History, CCM was reknowned for building the BSA singles into GP MX winning fabbed customs and have never really disappeared using the Rotax single, DRZ400 and other sourced powerplants for their projects.
http://www.b50.org/ccm.htm

Always thought they were kinda cool. I knew guy who had one kinda like this one and always thought it was really cool to look at. He was actually quite fast on it (Vintage racing) The BSA motor is a cool looking lump.

 

[steadydirt]

Watched a Scott race a CCM up here at a 500 GP back in the seventies. The dentist-Wolsink won, Roger's bike broke. There was a twin carbed Puch also. Van Vethoven with a 10" tall seat.
Astounded by the precision of the riders on the 500 class, the berms grew like big smooth dirt snakes, and the riders hit the same line every lap exactly. The 250 support class went out and completely destroyed the berms after the first 500 moto, but half way through the second 500 moto the berms were perfect again and looked like they had been trowelled smooth by a bunch of professional cement guys

 

[robertaccio]

I learned more about the CCMs when we were restoring a 73 B50 former local SoCal Pros bike from the 70s, he had all kinds of bits on his bike that were common mod practices from that vintage. (work done circa early 1990s) also was one bike that I could really ride wheelies on (I still suck at wheelies).
His B50 had rewelded frame layed down shocks, a Mikuni carb on an adapter block, bigger valves and other period mod stuff on it. And during that evolution, CCM racing B50s came up, so thats where my CCM bit of knowledge came from. Wiki now has a good write up on the CCM history.
I need to get a pic of that B50, I got er going and rode it around local and even out in the dez, my work was all about making her a runner again with some new stuff but not alot of cosmetic. My friend and shop owner payed and had her properly finished and returned her to her original owner (an old friend) as a surprise gift (very nice gift gesture!!). Last I heard its resides in his living room on display.

 

[ScottyR]

BMW must have had some old stock motors lying around that they sold really cheap. The motor is the BMW spec version without a hyd clutch, not the Husq version.

Just my opinion, but if that bike was sold under the Husqvarna name it would be a huge seller.

 

[Muddy Waters]

Is there a market for mini (i.e. 450cc) adventure bikes?
I thought that segment is reserved for 650cc bikes and up...not below...?

 

[mnb]

Dakar is limited to 450cc and smaller.

 

[Motosportz]

I love the 449/511 motor, sad to hear its time is limited. I'll just hold onto mine. It is a GREAT do it all bike.

 

[pat ohara]

Watched a Scott race a CCM up here at a 500 GP back in the seventies. The dentist-Wolsink won, Roger's bike broke. There was a twin carbed Puch also. Van Vethoven with a 10" tall seat.
Astounded by the precision of the riders on the 500 class, the berms grew like big smooth dirt snakes, and the riders hit the same line every lap exactly. The 250 support class went out and completely destroyed the berms after the first 500 moto, but half way through the second 500 moto the berms were perfect again and looked like they had been trowelled smooth by a bunch of professional cement guys

4 of my bikes from back in the day were CCM's, Allen Clews built these for enduro and MX in England. Very light weight they were about what a 250F weighs now with 4 sizes of motors from stroker motors to 610cc 3 speeds. I can say that the CCM 580cc Banks Replica would run all over the current crop of heavyweights. The craft work and machine work is all british exellence with the handling decidedly favoring long rake and short swingarm. The Scotchman you mentioned was Vic Allen who rode for Clews but on that day John Banks was the man.
Your view of their precision is spot on, they were and still are such talents. CCM's were the TM's of the day, very cool and they won a few Gp's.
I would like to see Husky come out with a 380cc fourstroke that would rev about 13,000 rpm, get the juices flowing.

 

[silverpilen]

Correct, i

BMW must have had some old stock motors lying around that they sold really cheap. The motor is the BMW spec version without a hyd clutch, not the Husq version.

Just my opinion, but if that bike was sold under the Husqvarna name it would be a huge seller.

So long as they spaced out the gearing a bit to get some top end, it would be great competition to the KTM690 adventure bikes.

 

[Muddy Waters]

Dakar is limited to 450cc and smaller.

Indeed but Dakar is a race format, adventure is leisure....more weight to carry, more ground to cover, more stopping to smell the roses, less time stopping to change the oil..... -->

 

[7point62]

Correct, i
So long as they spaced out the gearing a bit to get some top end, it would be great competition to the KTM690 adventure bikes.

The original Beemer motor had a five speed box and bottom to top was a bit wider spaced than the Husky variant (someone in Italy likes close ratio boxes...)

Judging by the cable clutch on the CCM it's most likely to be a more Beemer spec motor.

 

[Te250Gary]

Fantastic looking bike, I hope it actually makes it to production. These things never seem to become reality

 

[heatingguy]

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[Chillybean]

Is there a market for mini (i.e. 450cc) adventure bikes?
I thought that segment is reserved for 650cc bikes and up...not below...?

I once rode a DRZ 250 across australia I personally think most adventure riders would be far better off on a smaller and lighter bike. If you need to carry enough camping gear and fancy gadjets that the weight will break your bike you are not really being that adventurous!

 

[southy]

Is there a market for mini (i.e. 450cc) adventure bikes?
I thought that segment is reserved for 650cc bikes and up...not below...?

450 ADV builds like the WR450 below are becoming common. Some want there ADV bikes not to weigh 200kg+ and have some off road ability. Note the bash plate which has a built in oil tank for extra capacity.

I know the owner of this KTM450EXC. This bike recently did the longest day ride here in Oz. It travelled 1300km in 12 hours. Again you can see the orange oil tank on the side to up the oil capacity. It also has a side fuel tank added since this photo for extra fuel range.

The 650cc style bike just seem to keep getting heavier with each model. I for one with Yamaha would do a 450 version of there very popular WR250R.

 

[Muddy Waters]

So there's definitely a market for them........in Australia
That's cool, diversity is a beautiful thing and I'm all for it, having the right tool for the job always makes it much more enjoyable (especially in motorcycles)

..... if you need to carry enough camping gear and fancy gadjets that the weight will break your bike you are not really being that adventurous!

Chillybean, not to rain on your parade but...I'm pretty sure you can have an adventure in an eighteen wheeler.....unless I didn't noticed and they actually classified what is an adventure and what's not