Hello All,
I brought a running and driving 2013 TE310R last year and then ran into a no start issue a few months afterwards. I have since been working on the bike for a full year and have only narrowed down the issue to a EFI problem.
June 2021:
Bike would start every time on issues.
July 2021:
Bike was idling in the garage, then sputter, backfire, stalled. I restarted the bike it idled for a few moments then stalled. Was not able to restart after that.
August 2021:
Swap spark plug, ignition coil, fuel, clutch switch, front brake switch, and replaced battery. Could start but only after 10 or so minutes of constant kicking; but if I shut down the bike, no restart.
Winter 2021-2022:
Replace piston rings, checked and adjusted valve gap, inspection on engine. Could start but only after 10 or so minutes of constant kicking; but if I shut down the bike, no restart.
Spring 2022:
Was able to confirm compression, air, and the fuel pump is delivery fuel to the injector. However the fuel injector was not spraying fuel. Cleaned injector (was able to open it with battery), no spray. Tested voltage to the injector, voltage was being delivered but injector would not open. I replaced the injector. Still no fuel spray. No start.
Summer 2022:
-Got a bike mechanical with some experience with Italian husky's to help. He re-inspected my top end rebuild and fuel pump: All was good, engine cylinder in excellent condition. No Start.
-With the bike re-assembly, we were able to start and idle after 5mins of constant kicking. The bike idle strong for 10mins no issues. After 10mins, we twist the throttle and the bike immediately stalled.
So we able to confirm that eventually fuel could spray through the injector; although, starting it was inconstant and using the throttle would cause the bike to stall.
Where we sit now:
Testing voltage from up steam of the TPS (down steam of the ECU), we notice the both coloured wires are delivering a signal; one at 5.?? V, and the other at 4.90V: is this correct?
The TPS when hooked up to a 5V power source will allow of varying volts at different throttle positions.
The TPS is also cycling smoothly through a range of resistance 0.14 (@20k oms) to 5.?? (@20k oms).
Testing continuity at the ECU's ports for the injector wiring we find everything is good.
Right now our main suspect is still the TPS, but it feels like a shot in the dark. It is 2022 and I am in Canada where these bikes are extremely rare. The closest garage is a diagnostic connector is 8hrs away.
Before I make this trip to the garage is there any advice or thoughts on what to test, replace or possible ideas for a work around to confirm the problem? Assume the only things that are definite are the compression, spark, and air; as well, the fuel pump, and the injector are in good working order. Everything else could be a possibility, we might have overlooked something, or did something incorrectly.
Thanks,
Eric
I brought a running and driving 2013 TE310R last year and then ran into a no start issue a few months afterwards. I have since been working on the bike for a full year and have only narrowed down the issue to a EFI problem.
June 2021:
Bike would start every time on issues.
July 2021:
Bike was idling in the garage, then sputter, backfire, stalled. I restarted the bike it idled for a few moments then stalled. Was not able to restart after that.
August 2021:
Swap spark plug, ignition coil, fuel, clutch switch, front brake switch, and replaced battery. Could start but only after 10 or so minutes of constant kicking; but if I shut down the bike, no restart.
Winter 2021-2022:
Replace piston rings, checked and adjusted valve gap, inspection on engine. Could start but only after 10 or so minutes of constant kicking; but if I shut down the bike, no restart.
Spring 2022:
Was able to confirm compression, air, and the fuel pump is delivery fuel to the injector. However the fuel injector was not spraying fuel. Cleaned injector (was able to open it with battery), no spray. Tested voltage to the injector, voltage was being delivered but injector would not open. I replaced the injector. Still no fuel spray. No start.
Summer 2022:
-Got a bike mechanical with some experience with Italian husky's to help. He re-inspected my top end rebuild and fuel pump: All was good, engine cylinder in excellent condition. No Start.
-With the bike re-assembly, we were able to start and idle after 5mins of constant kicking. The bike idle strong for 10mins no issues. After 10mins, we twist the throttle and the bike immediately stalled.
So we able to confirm that eventually fuel could spray through the injector; although, starting it was inconstant and using the throttle would cause the bike to stall.
Where we sit now:
Testing voltage from up steam of the TPS (down steam of the ECU), we notice the both coloured wires are delivering a signal; one at 5.?? V, and the other at 4.90V: is this correct?
The TPS when hooked up to a 5V power source will allow of varying volts at different throttle positions.
The TPS is also cycling smoothly through a range of resistance 0.14 (@20k oms) to 5.?? (@20k oms).
Testing continuity at the ECU's ports for the injector wiring we find everything is good.
Right now our main suspect is still the TPS, but it feels like a shot in the dark. It is 2022 and I am in Canada where these bikes are extremely rare. The closest garage is a diagnostic connector is 8hrs away.
Before I make this trip to the garage is there any advice or thoughts on what to test, replace or possible ideas for a work around to confirm the problem? Assume the only things that are definite are the compression, spark, and air; as well, the fuel pump, and the injector are in good working order. Everything else could be a possibility, we might have overlooked something, or did something incorrectly.
Thanks,
Eric