1976 250CR Factory Thru the Frame Pipe Option

[Ron]

1976 250CR Factory thru the Frame Pipe "Option". Anybody ever hear of this?

 

[auto]

I think in 77 they streached out the frame to fit a up and over pipe.76 might be a tight squeeze.

 

[Ron]

I found a picture of a 76 CR250 with the same pipe on it.
Here's a pic of the pipe.
Ron

 

[Bill502]

I think I have seen that pipe on a 78 250cr I have the pipe in the backround on my 78 cr I think the only frame change for 76 to 77 was the head angle and the rear shock mounts as they are still ML series with small mods.

 

[Ron]

The pipe in the background is the stock pipe off my 77. It looks to be the same as a 78.
I'm thinking the by the shape of the 76 pipe, it will hit a little harder in the mid range and rev a bit more, but may loose some bottom end pull off the corners.
I like the looks of the 76 pipe and tucks in a little better than the stock pipe. It also bolts right on.
I'll try them both if i ever get the bike finished.
The only difference I see between the 77 and 78 is the steering head bearings. Although I don't know what the steering angle is on my 77 compared to a 78.
I'd be curious to know.

 

[ray_ray]

My 76 CR250 had the pipe in the foreground ...Early 76 models had the side pipes that was on the 75 models ...that fatter looking one came along later I believe as stated above ... Maybe on the OR models also ...

76 CR250s were racers (with a kick stand) ...top end screaming or stay home ... That bike went down a line, any line, as straight as an arrow .. I rode just a little ST on a 79 CR250 ... safest bike I ever rode out there as it held its line so well...

 

[Bill502]

The pipe in the background is the stock pipe off my 77. It looks to be the same as a 78.
I'm thinking the by the shape of the 76 pipe, it will hit a little harder in the mid range and rev a bit more, but may loose some bottom end pull off the corners.
I like the looks of the 76 pipe and tucks in a little better than the stock pipe. It also bolts right on.
I'll try them both if i ever get the bike finished.
The only difference I see between the 77 and 78 is the steering head bearings. Although I don't know what the steering angle is on my 77 compared to a 78.
I'd be curious to know.

The steering angle on the 77CR is the same as the 78CR 29 degrees 76 CR was 32 Degrees good for the desert but not that great in the tight stuff. They changed to Timken style Bearings in mid 78 on all the frames. They kicked the angle out to 30 degrees in 79 and changed the frame also.
Bill

 

[Ron]

Bill,
Thanks for the info, its gonna be fun to ride a Husky that turns!
I bought a 250OR new in 78 and raced a lot of desert out here in Southern California.
In 83 I bought a new 250 XC.
The desert has gott'en to rough for me or maybe I'm getting to old (57 years young).
They keep closing off areas to race and the courses keep getting more and more chewed up.
Lately I've been riding AHRMA motocross on a Penton Six Days 125 and a 100cc Hodaka in the Marty Tripes Revenge series. But my 78 250OR was always been my all time favorite bike.
When I decided to build one I found the 77 250CR and it looked almost identical to my 78 as best I could remember, so I bought it.
Paid $600.00 for it, but the motor was stuck. Turns out the front of the piston broke off so I have to split the cases and check it out. I would have done that anyway on a bike thats been sitting so long.
I almost choked when the guy said O'yea, I've got another gas tank for it in the garage.
Wer'e also building a 79 390CR for my son. He usually rides a 2008 Yamaha 450F, but he's finally got the vintage bug too.
I think he just thinks he can whip on us old guys. He's gonna find out. LOL
Ron

 

[Bill502]

Bill,
Thanks for the info, its gonna be fun to ride a Husky that turns!
I bought a 250OR new in 78 and raced a lot of desert out here in Southern California.
In 83 I bought a new 250 XC.
The desert has gott'en to rough for me or maybe I'm getting to old (57 years young).
They keep closing off areas to race and the courses keep getting more and more chewed up.
Lately I've been riding AHRMA motocross on a Penton Six Days 125 and a 100cc Hodaka in the Marty Tripes Revenge series. But my 78 250OR was always been my all time favorite bike.
When I decided to build one I found the 77 250CR and it looked almost identical to my 78 as best I could remember, so I bought it.
Paid $600.00 for it, but the motor was stuck. Turns out the front of the piston broke off so I have to split the cases and check it out. I would have done that anyway on a bike thats been sitting so long.
I almost choked when the guy said O'yea, I've got another gas tank for it in the garage.
Wer'e also building a 79 390CR for my son. He usually rides a 2008 Yamaha 450F, but he's finally got the vintage bug too.
I think he just thinks he can whip on us old guys. He's gonna find out. LOL
Ron

I bought my 76 250WR new and it was my first Husky it was a good bike in the woods, but here in the northeast the trees are real close to each other so you need a good steering bike. i sold my WR and bought a new 78 250CR for Enduros It was much better in the trees than the 76. Now I have a 07 WR 167 for a woods bike and A 78 250CR for Post Vintage MX that I'm going to try hopefully this year.

 

[Ron]

Hi Bill,
I took my Hodaka to Tulsa, OK in Nov 2008, to ride the ISDT Reunion Ride.
A bunch of the Hodaka guys got together to try and have the most entries. I think we had 35 and Husky had 32.
We had to have our bikes set up in the spirit of the early ISDT with lights (they didn't have to work). That's the closest I come to riding in the woods.
Some of the guys there said these tree's are nothing like back east, but it was really fun.
It kinda made the sand, rocks and dust of the desert seem almost boring when I got home.
Post vintage MX is a lot of fun too. Most guys don't take it to seriously (some do) and just have a good time showing off the bikes.
I've decided with vintage MX it's usually about 10% bike and 90% rider, with conditioning being the biggest factor. "They say to finish first, you first have to finish".
Here's a pic of my Hodaka set up for the ISDTRR.
Ron

 

[Picklito]

Bump! for an old thread: I just started a post about whether the barn roach I just picked up is 75 or 76. It came with both a left side pipe and a through-the-frame that fits this ML. I don't know what's what for this era of Husky! If anybody can supply info, or would like pics of what I have let me know!

 

[ruwfo]

Picklito,
Here's some pics: 1) 1975 or 76 250CR 2) 77 or 78 250CR with built in silencer..it's possible you have a later 76 model which would explain it having a 77 cross over pipe.

Husky John

 

[MarkT]

Dredging up a very old thread... My first brand new bike was a late 1976 250CR with the factory through the frame pipe Ron showed in the first post. I think it's a different pipe than the 1977? I've been looking for that late 1976 model for years. Never found one exactly like it. So anyway, about a week ago I was visiting Scootern's awesome collection and doing a little bench racing... got me thinking about my 76 Husky and I checked Craigslist when I got home. First pic is of my 1976 250CR in front of Malcolm Smith's then new shop...

second pic is of the very nice original 76 I just bought.

 

[ruwfo]

Looks like a YZ silencer to me??? Very cool bike still

 

[MarkT]

Looks like a YZ silencer to me??? Very cool bike still

Thank you!

I'm positive it's a factory Husqvarna silencer... exactly the same as the original one on my 1976-1/2. I think this exact 250CR model with that pipe/silencer was somewhat rare? (That's why I brought up this old thread)

Oh... and after looking for years for my exact old bike and never finding it, I now have TWO. The one in my last post saw very little use and has been in storage for about 38 years. The original tires show very little wear. The second one was not completely stock (bars and rear fender were changed). I made a deal for both. Here's the second one:




I'm very lucky... these bikes are like opening a time capsule. They were bought new at Malcolm's and I got them from the original (business partner) owners. The serial numbers are very close to my original first new bike. The only thing missing on both are the number plates. They said they never had them installed when the bikes were new.

I can take some better pics of the silencers. I may even have my original (almost brand new) silencer from my original bike in a box someplace... it was replaced with a Skyway at Malcolm's so I could get a California Green Sticker.

P.S. I just realized that Scott (Scootern) goes by "Chayzed Pilot" on this forum.

 

[Colin]

Here's my '75 with the later pipe. Silencer is a DG universal piece.

 

[watto450]

The 76 1/2 pipe as pictured is designed by Kent Ohlin.. the silencer is very close to a period RM unit.. I have a pipe that had a genuine silencer on it , but it got lost by the previous owner..by chance anyone have a "spare".. would love to finish off this pipe..

 

[ray_ray]

I owned a 76 CR250 and it had the cross-over pipe ... Mikkola was winning a world championship at about the same time on one of these bikes ... Seems like I read some of the earlier built models in that same yr had the large pipe up the left side of the bike as previous models... My bike had a small silencer held on by 2 springs as the one in that pic above and a cool sound ... it would be very hard to confuse the Husky with the Japan made bikes of that day or that we all still listen to all these yrs later ...

(I'm repeating my self from my 011 post ... my memory is going south )

 

[MarkT]

I owned a 76 CR250 and it had the cross-over pipe ... Mikkola was winning a world championship at about the same time on one of these bikes ... Seems like I read some of the earlier built models in that same yr had the large pipe up the left side of the bike as previous models... My bike had a small silencer held on by 2 springs as the one in that pic above and a cool sound ... it would be very hard to confuse the Husky with the Japan made bikes of that day or that we all still listen to all these yrs later ...

(I'm repeating my self from my 011 post ... my memory is going south )

It may have been BS but the Service Manager at Malcolm Smith's (Dave?) told me back in 1977 or 1978 that my late 76 with the crossover pipe was a "last minute Mikkola replica" with "works" porting as well as the pipe... supposedly the same as Mikkola's world championship bike? I'm not sure this was true. I do know that it was quick... easy to get holeshots even against modified RM's and YZ's.

 

[Kartwheel68]

I have one of those pipes, I have not yet tried it on my '76 250WR but I want to use it because it will narrow the bike in the middle.