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TE310 oil seepage fixed w pics of starter

Discussion in '4 Stroke' started by DougW, Jul 21, 2012.

  1. DougW Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Santa Clarita, CA
    As I had posted in my 57hour checkup post I have had a oil seepage problem around the starter area. It turns out it was at the rubber wire seal where the magneto wires exit the left hand cover. I ordered a new side gasket just in case and did replace it but I'm not totally sure I really needed to. What I ended up doing that seems to have worked after cleaning up the oil is replaced the gasket, removed the rubber wire insulator, then put a small about of red high temp liquid gasket material around the groove in the insulator and replaced it. I wiped off any access gasket material from inside the cover. After I re mounted the side cover I then put some gasket material around the wires on the outside. So far so good as it hasn't leaked yet.

    In this picture you can see the oil that seeped past the gasket between it and the cover. Plus you can see how the starter motor lines up and works as well.

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    Here is the cover side and you can see oil on the rubber wire insulator as well.
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    In this picture what is interesting is the flywheel has teeth on it but one of them is machined off. No it is not broken<G>.
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    In this picture you can see the gear behind the flywheel that the starter gear engages with.

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    Here is just an overall photo just because.

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  2. OlderHuskyRider Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Austin, TX
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2010 TE 450 - last of the ITA motors
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kwaka KLE, HD FXDWG
    Great pics, thanks for posting them, first time I've seen the worm gear that is key to the x-lite e-starter design.

    Do those teeth engage anything? If not, I'd think the design of the teeth was to allow them to machine off a tooth or more on the heavy side of the flywheel when it was balanced. You can see a punch mark on the rim area near the missing tooth, possibly indicating the heavy spot.
  3. DougW Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Santa Clarita, CA
    My thought was maybe the missing tooth was for timing of tdc.

    And if anyone needs into the starter it is pretty easy to do. With a little effort you can remove the starter without removing anything else other than the mounting bolts. Once removed its easy to get it disassembled, if anyone cares.
  4. Aaron8 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Great write up and pics, thanks!

    That isn't how I pictured the starter/worm config.

    I need to do this next oil change. Did you let the RTV dry before you mated the parts, or no?
  5. ghte Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bright, Victoria Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2 x 310's, 2016 Beta 480, SWM RS650
    Other Motorcycles:
    2016 Multi ,Griso1100, Monster695
    Would a bit of silicane fixed the issue?
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  6. ioneater Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    NW Texas
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2010 TXC 250
    Other Motorcycles:
    08 Sprint
    Man, those pics answer a lot of questions I've had about "how it works". Helps explain that unique starter sound we x-lite folks get asked about. Thanks for taking the time to do so and sharing your fix.
  7. DougW Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Santa Clarita, CA
    I'd suspect regular silicone on the outside would be just fine on the outside only. It never leaked alot, worth a try, nothing to loose.

    I put the red rev on the rubber seal, put the cover on lightly, then in the morning finished tightening it. For me it was to make sure I didn't have any rv inside the cover before I seated it down. I didnt want any chance of the rtv floating around.
  8. Allan Briscoe Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Adelaide South Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE310R 2013 FE250 2019
    Other Motorcycles:
    DT250D Yz125K IT 250 J
    Great pics Doug to answer the question of the missing tooth this ia what is called the chopper wheel and the teeth tell the ECU how many revs the engine is doing and the one missing is the TDC reference. I suspect the pick up or engine speed sensor is part of the box above the stator most likely the blue and white wires. This is how the engine works out fuel timing along with the other info from the rest of the sensors.
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  9. Bruce A Husqvarna
    A Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE 250
    I just had the exact same issue on my TE250. When I opened it up I found that dirt had gotten between the rubber wire plug and the cover. Cleaned it out added a little grease and put it back together. Seems to have fixed it. I will find out for sure later today when I go for a ride. If not I will likely go with liquid gasket as well.
  10. Aaron8 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    I used the red RTV silicone just like Doug described. No more oil seep :)
  11. R_Little Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    NJ
    Bingo...the missing tooth triggers the ignition.
  12. robertaccio Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    San Diego, Ca
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 Husqvarna TE300i
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 HusqvarnaTE610, 94 Husaberg FC501
  13. Benriding Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Wisconsin
    On last ride had this happen and am 90% sure this is the issue after seeing this. Thanks!
  14. Buster714 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    SoCal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE310
    Other Motorcycles:
    '04 950Adv, '10 F800GS, '06 R6 track
    Excellent info here! Thank you.

    So, what's the black stuff on the stator?
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    Anyone know where the little rubber pieces (in the center of this pic) came from?
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  15. R_Little Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    NJ
    I've had a few of these apart and those rubber things do not look familiar to me.
  16. glangston Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Gardnerville, NV and Mammoth Lakes, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 Husqvarna TE 310
    Other Motorcycles:
    2012 BETA 350 RS
    Maybe just check a schematic of the stator to see if those pieces are foreign or domestic.
  17. robertaccio Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    San Diego, Ca
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 Husqvarna TE300i
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 HusqvarnaTE610, 94 Husaberg FC501
    Those little black rubber/plastic bits are most likely from your clutch dampers, on these very hot running bikes they get brittle and start to crack. Eventually you will need to pull your clutch basket and do this.

    http://www.ziptyracing.com/husqvarna-clutch-cushion-kit/

    you will start to find your clutch get some chatter and a sort of loose feel from all the play in the back plate as those bushings collapse, it will no longer be as smooth engaging as when it was new.
  18. need2boat Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    South Jersey
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 TXC310
    Other Motorcycles:
    1993 BMW K75s
    I've had mine off in the last month or so a few times. Not sure what the rubber washers are for? This bike doesn't use a lot of rubber washers on it.

    Did you take the stator off? could it have been used with those two allen head bolts. That black stuff is a sealer, I think to protect the wire connections to the windings.
  19. joedirt Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    PA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr250
    The little round rubber washers in the pic are not clutch dampers.
    I've had a few of these engines apart and don't recall little rubber washers as in the pic.
  20. Buster714 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    SoCal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE310
    Other Motorcycles:
    '04 950Adv, '10 F800GS, '06 R6 track
    Thanks Husky maniacs. robertaccio, I'll look into that after I get more use out of the bike. Everything looked primo when I dropped the Rekluse in a while back.

    As soon as I saw them I was reminded of the little rubber anti-squeal pieces on the Rekluse clutch hub, but they appear to be slightly different in dimension and shape. I'll have to check just in case.
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    :thumbsup: Haven't found them yet. p40... http://www.halls-cycles.com/fckimages/file/TC-TE-TXC 250-310.pdf

    Sealer eh? I was sooooo glad to see another pic from the OP with the same thing, haha.

    Excellent guess as to where they came from, but I found one in the case outside of the stator area on the worm gear. I don't see them in the schematic either, but I'll definitely check to see if they fit the allen bolts.

    I just set the gap on the clutch but I might have to open it up and make sure it's not the pieces that go on the hub. Rogue rubber. Hmm.