Relkuse Clutch

Discussion in '610/630' started by skywalker951, Jul 3, 2012.

  1. skywalker951 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Gaylord, Mi
    I pickup a new honda crf250x with a relkuse clutch and love it! Thinking of one for my 610, has anyone done this mod and how do you like it?
  2. Xcuvator Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Scholls Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE450,610 WB165,WR250 WR360 & XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    yes
    I have a RMS 856 Pro in my 610. The clutch is the one sold for TE 450 510 and WR 250 300. It works very well, actually better than the other two Rekluse clutches I have in Huskys. I set it up with 6 TC balls, the engaement is very positive and the manual over ride feels like a stock clutch.
    I don't think it could work any better. As a side benefit, the cable should last forever because there is almost no load on it. I put a shorty lever on and can one finger it.
  3. weldpro Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Susanville, Ca.
    Xcuvator- You are saying you have the Rekluse Pro made for a TE450/510 in your 610!? If so that is awesome. My two 450's (a KTM & Honda) both have the pro model, and I purchased the Core for my wifes TE250. I really do not like the Core version, and it was crazy expensive since it had to have the cover as well. The main issue I have with the core is that it has creep no matter what settings I put it at. No with the cheaper pro model (I have owned three of these) I have never not been able to adjust them to perfection. I would love a pro version in my 630 but I am on the fence since there is no kick start on the bike. It would sure suck not to be able to push start it!
  4. skywalker951 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Gaylord, Mi
    Did you get this from Rekluse? Do they have a kit or your own creation?
  5. Teeblatt Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Jacksonville FL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM 990 Adventure, KTM 640 Adventure
    I've pickup a RMS-856 Z-Start Pro for my 2009 TE-610 and wanted to inquiry in what tuning works best. My only experience was with a KTM 640 and settled for a low RPM and hard engagement tune. The biggest difference between the KTM and the Husky kit is the number of tungsten balls. The KTM came with 27 TC balls. In your opinion, would the 610 be better severed with more than 6 TC balls. The recommended breakin springs for the TE-510 are a C200L5 and a C150L2. Is that what your running? How does the engagement RPM and engagment rate compare to the tuning guide for the TE-510?

    Any help from the community would be very much appreciated.
  6. Xcuvator Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Scholls Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE450,610 WB165,WR250 WR360 & XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    yes
    The RMS 856 is made to fit a 450-510 and WR250-300. I spoke to Rekluse and I don't know if they ever recognized the fact that they work in a 610 too. Another member (Hammer I think) was the one to figure it out and do the first install. He said he just followed the 450-510 recomendations.
    I have 6 TC balls, C200L4, C150L2 and one .048" drive plate.. I may be replacing the C150L2 with C150M3. I had the C150M3 in before and like the engagement better. The engagement is just a little too soon with the C150L2. The other option would be to remove 2 TC balls and leave the springs alone.
    I have put three of these clutches in and I end up changing the springs several times on each one before I decide what I like the best.
    I am very happy with the way it works, especially the over ride.
    Good luck
  7. hammer Husqvarna
    AA Class

    I phoned Rekluse and talked to Patrick Koether after I found out it work in my 630 and was told to mind my own business and not do R&D for them.

    Sorry for trying to sell a few clutches for you.
  8. Biggziff Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Upstate, NY
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE510
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM 1190R, 500 EXC, 1970 Suzuki T250
    That's a pretty poor attitude for someone making their living selling parts to a small community like this. He'll want to apologize or accept whatever consequences come from his discussions with you.
  9. skywalker951 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Gaylord, Mi
    I also phoned rekluse and they said the 510 clutch would work, however they would not warranty the clutch. They say the 610 puts out to much torque? A owned a 510 and torque was at a premium.
  10. Xcuvator Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Scholls Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE450,610 WB165,WR250 WR360 & XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    yes
    I would be surprised if they actually compared the torque. Most likely heard the 610 number and got scared, not knowing that 570=610 in Husky speak.
  11. Teeblatt Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Jacksonville FL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM 990 Adventure, KTM 640 Adventure
    Thanks Xcuvator, the tuning advice is much appreciated.

    A note for the thread. Changing from a steel to a tungsten carbide ball is like upping the number of balls by two. A steel ball has a nominal density of approx 0.28 lbs./cu in. and tungsten has a density 0.54 lbs./cu in.

    I hope as people tweak their tune, they will post their setting and what lead them to make the change. Since it doesn't appear that Rekluse will be publishing a tuning chart any time soon. :D
    ray_ray likes this.
  12. Xcuvator Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Scholls Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE450,610 WB165,WR250 WR360 & XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    yes
    Be sure to set the gap up at the small end of the spec and check it after riding it for an hour or so. That is why I mentioned the .048" drive plate.
  13. Stolenfant Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Charleston, SC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    610TE 2009
    Other Motorcycles:
    Hodaka, Hondas, Cagiva, etc.
    Three quick questions, I'm ordering RMS-856 Monday for 09 TE610,

    1. Do you have a trick for keeping the oil pump shaft from dropping out when you remove clutch cover with bike on left side? (don't say drain oil and tip bike on right side:D)

    I ride mostly sand, very tight woods and some cypress swamp mud (roots & stumps) around home and THINK I want the clutch to drag slightly at idle for engine braking, and engage hard. Sounds like the recommended Med-Hard settings for the 510. I assume I can 1-finger the clutch if it wants to engage too hard in the wet and to back up in tight areas.
    2. So, can you describe what your settings, C200L4 /C150L2 w/ 6 TC and 21 steel balls yielded?
    3. What RPM does your TE idle?
  14. Xcuvator Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Scholls Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE450,610 WB165,WR250 WR360 & XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    yes
    I anwered you questions in the PM you sent.
    Good luck
  15. huzar Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    Seattle
    I have an RMS-856 on order as well, for my '08 TE610. Hopefully I'll be able to get some time to put it in later this month.
  16. Stolenfant Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Charleston, SC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    610TE 2009
    Other Motorcycles:
    Hodaka, Hondas, Cagiva, etc.
    When did you order? The have had one of the 6 or so springs on backorder. You may want to request shipmet of the springs they do have. I am.
  17. huzar Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    Seattle
    Found one on eBay that had been used for ~10 hours... judging by the description, I think it was the same one that was posted here a couple of months ago. Figure I'm not risking much for $350
  18. Stolenfant Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Charleston, SC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    610TE 2009
    Other Motorcycles:
    Hodaka, Hondas, Cagiva, etc.
    Mine is scheduled to be here Thursday, and I'll be installing Saturday with the C200L4, C150L2 six TC balls and 21 Steel ones. I'll let you know where I get engagement. What springs do you have with your kit? I may be trying the C150L3 or M3 whatever it is that was Xcuvator finished with. My bike idles a little higher than his.
  19. huzar Husqvarna
    B Class

    Location:
    Seattle
    Right now that's all still greek to me... maybe I should just bring the bike down to Skoals and ask Xcuvator to help with the install, given he appears to be the resident expert on this ;)
  20. Stolenfant Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Charleston, SC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    610TE 2009
    Other Motorcycles:
    Hodaka, Hondas, Cagiva, etc.
    Pretty good video's on the Rekluse website. Of course I say that before doing the install myself:)