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Like the Berg 70 degree motor and the 449/511 Yamaha pushes the mass centralization approach...

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Interesting...

http://www.dirtrider.com/features/first-look-all-new-2014-yamaha-yz250f-and-yz450f/

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Yes very interesting but think someone at Yamaha has it wrong with the 450 as no way does that bike require more bottom end power, if anything it needs less as they are just so abrupt but then again Im fat and slow and dont want one lol
Do like the 250 though
 
I find this gimmicky. After all when riding one is always trying to get weight on the front end.

Steering head moved 10mm farther rearward for more front end weight bias. Muffler moved 186mm, nearly 7 3/8 inches farther forward. That should get a little more weight on the front tire.
 
I find this gimmicky. After all when riding one is always trying to get weight on the front end.


The Berg with the 70 degree motor and the 449/511 both feel lighter when moving because of this IMHO. I loved the FE390 Berg and hoped the 449/511 would feel the same way when i got it and it does. Rode with a buddy this last weekend that hates 4 strokes and the front heavy feel and he tried my 511 and LOVED it even after coming off a very small and light feeling KX250. He said "does not feel like a typical 4 stroke with to much weight on the front" and called Bills looking to buy one. He went through several KTM 250F and 400 and 450 looking for a 4 stroke he might like. He likes the feel of the 511 WAY better. I think there is something to it.
 
Isn't front end feel the problem JS7 was having with JGR? I think the motor mount kit from Dr D puts more weight on the front with the 450.
 
250f is a four valve instead of 5? Nice, it'll save someone some money down the road :). I like how they opted out of air forks
 
Yeah I'm pretty sure that was the idea. I wonder how much of a difference that kit makes

I think the Dr. D kit moves the engine 2.5mm forward and the lightspeed kit 3mm.
 
The Berg with the 70 degree motor and the 449/511 both feel lighter when moving because of this IMHO. I loved the FE390 Berg and hoped the 449/511 would feel the same way when i got it and it does. Rode with a buddy this last weekend that hates 4 strokes and the front heavy feel and he tried my 511 and LOVED it even after coming off a very small and light feeling KX250. He said "does not feel like a typical 4 stroke with to much weight on the front" and called Bills looking to buy one. He went through several KTM 250F and 400 and 450 looking for a 4 stroke he might like. He likes the feel of the 511 WAY better. I think there is something to it.



But the Husky still has the engine canted forward. I think the main advantage on the 449/511 is lowering the fuel...but avoiding moving it too far back. I do tend to ride the 511 with my body forward more than on other bikes.
 
That seems to be a bold move considering the 450 really doesn't have much of a following. Almost non existent in SX.
 
That seems to be a bold move considering the 450 really doesn't have much of a following. Almost non existent in SX.

Isn't front end feel the problem JS7 was having with JGR? I think the motor mount kit from Dr D puts more weight on the front with the 450.


I don't think Yamaha has really put any money in getting a good rider on it. I also don't think there is anything wrong with the bike even though JS blamed it some. 33 Grant is doing OK on it and is not a top rider. Paul Whibley has been dominating on it off road. Rookie Cooper Web has been impressive on it in the lights class. In last weekend GNCC XC1 class there were three of them int he top 10 which is more than everyone but KTM which it ties. Put Vilipoto on it and it would win. Its the riders IMHO. Not making arguments for Yamaha as I could care less but also don't think it is a the bike and advanced thinking.
 
I don't think Yamaha has really put any money in getting a good rider on it...

You're right mate. Yamaha USA has pulled a LOT of support in the last year or so. I don't know if you've noticed, but the number of Yamaha's in the AMA Supercross this year has dwindled significantly. In fact, at some of the races such as Salt Lake city (Rd 16) there was not a single Yamaha in one of the 250 heat races :eek:

Yamaha have cut the contingencies they pay racers significantly this year. Even outside of racing Yamaha have been cutting costs - Robbie Maddison has just switched from Yamaha (which he has ridden for a LONG time) to KTM after Yamaha were struggling to carry on supporting him (I believe). In short, there may be nothing particularly wrong with the Yamaha bikes, but there certainly is something wrong with Yamaha the company.

Will be interesting to see how these rear facing cylinder 250's do next year.
 
The 250s are putting in a good showing in the outdoors....
You would think with Stewart off the budget they could afford some top 5 talent....although they might not have paid much of his meal ticket.
 
I find this gimmicky. After all when riding one is always trying to get weight on the front end.

Not me. I'm usually centered or weight to the rear. But then I'm not riding SX or MX (or all that fast, even at MY fast speed).
 
I'm drooling. I think it's a killer design and relieved to see them back. It should have the other manufacturers worried. I also lite Yamaha quality and durability. If Pierer screws up Husqvarna, yammie is certainly on my short list even though it is not an enduro bike. But it wouldn' be hard to put on an 18'', rekluse, guards, steahly and soften the suspension. It will be nimble and it will have some go and it wont break easily. Luckily there's no money to buy one ;-)
 
Before i rode Husky (and also while I rode husky) I had several Yamahas. Did not turn like a husky but stone reliable...

98 YZ250, my first brand new bike. Went to get the all new Yamaha Wr400 4 stroke and walked out with this :D

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Also had an 02 YZ250. Great bike, my friend still owns and rides it.

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After riding the YZF250 of my buddies I swore I would get one when they added a auto compression release. I did. Was a great bike. I did a bunch of stuff to that bike. One of the first Rekluse clutches, 20" front wheel. My own fork sub chambers, Offset triple clamps, humped seat, early JD carb kit, was a great bike. Sold it to get my brand new 04 TE450.

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