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125-200cc How to tell if brake master cylinder seal is a goner

Discussion in '2 Stroke' started by shawbagga, Jan 5, 2017.

  1. johnnyboy Husqvarna
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    UK
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    WR 125
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    TM 250f
    Take the master cylinder off and put your thumb over the hole and see if it pumps, You can get a longer stroke with it off and it may be all it needs to get it working again after its all connected back up - Yes I know it sounds dumb but its worked for me loads of times.
  2. shawbagga Husqvarna
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    Eaton, Western Australia
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    2018 Gasgas XC250
    Over which hole? It's pumpin fluid normally n reverse but jus seems it's bypassing piston/caliper.
  3. shawbagga Husqvarna
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    Eaton, Western Australia
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    Wat does the bigger nut under the bleed nipple do? Does that bleed the caliper also?

    Edit it's jus the banjo
  4. Huskynoobee CH Sponsor ZipTy Racing

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    Castaic, CA
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    2011 TE449 2006 WR250
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    HDUltra Classic IT200 YZ250 SV650s
    The cylinder isn't scored or something? Have you taken the caliper apart to make sure there's no damage to the piston and seals? Gotta be something more than the master cylinder at this point.
  5. johnnyboy Husqvarna
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    WR 125
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    TM 250f
    Right then get a pair of grips if you havnt got a proper hose clamp and clamp the hose as close to the cylinder as possible. Now has it got pedal pressure ? If so you know its not the master and its down the line at the caliper end.
  6. shawbagga Husqvarna
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    That's wat I'm thinkin. Can't get piston out it's fully recessed. Maybe comp air down inlet hole
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  7. shawbagga Husqvarna
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    Eaton, Western Australia
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    Won't this wreck the line bein braided?
  8. johnnyboy Husqvarna
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    UK
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    WR 125
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    TM 250f

    YES
    Thought it was a stock rubber item :doh:
  9. ohmygewd Husqvarna
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  10. shawbagga Husqvarna
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    2018 Gasgas XC250
    Back to work tomoro so hav to wait a coupla weeks to do this.
  11. jo360 Husqvarna
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    perth australia
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    1983 exc framed wr430 engine
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    ktm 520exc
    Visually check inside cylinder tape some very fine sand paper to a drill bit and give it a quick hone, take caliper and master cylinder off bike reverse bleed by clamping piston with g clamp and then bleed as normal with mc lower than caliper and brake line straight make sure the mc is returning fully, still say air in system but trapped in caliper.
  12. lankydoug Husqvarna
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    Don't ever do this! If you get a stuck piston that all of the sudden lets go you will have broken fingers. Instead place a block of wood to catch the piston. If you don't use a block of wood the piston can come out of there so fast that it will dent an ruin the piston.
  13. shawbagga Husqvarna
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    Eaton, Western Australia
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    2018 Gasgas XC250
    Haha yeh il stick a bit of wood or thick plastic in ther
  14. Huskynoobee CH Sponsor ZipTy Racing

    Location:
    Castaic, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449 2006 WR250
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    HDUltra Classic IT200 YZ250 SV650s
    Any luck yet?
  15. shawbagga Husqvarna
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    Eaton, Western Australia
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    2018 Gasgas XC250
    Nah not home from work til wed arvo mate
  16. johnnyboy Husqvarna
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    UK
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    WR 125
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    TM 250f
    Cant believe that work takes preference over brakes/bikes down under mate ! Gotta get yer priorities right :lol:
  17. shawbagga Husqvarna
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    Eaton, Western Australia
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    It wouldn't if I was single with no kids! Work pays for said bikes n ridin. Jus nd to win lotto is all!
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  18. 2wheellove Husqvarna
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    TE310
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    NInja 1000ABS V65 Magna CR80R
    not to hijack but I have been having brake issues with my TE310 as well. rebuilt the master and still having issues. it will build pressure and then the pressure will drop off like a safe. Loosing pressure like that would make me think that I have a leak or a broken line but I cannot find one anywhere. My master cylinder might just be screwed. I looked inside and I didn't really see any major scoring or anything...
  19. robertaccio Husqvarna
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    San Diego, Ca
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    2021 Husqvarna TE300i
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    99 HusqvarnaTE610, 94 Husaberg FC501
    if you are not losing fluid (visually from fittings or non visually -slave piston seal) but you are losing pressure for sure its your master. You need to disassemble it again and do a very close inspection of the cylinder. I have had at least one fail. The fail mode is that the hard plating starts to chip, delaminate and flake off the inside walls of the cylinder.....and there is not a seal made that can deal with that. My bet is that is what you have going on. A bright light and even magnifying glass are good inspection tools. Good news is last time I did one it was available. I got mine (Magura) from Factory Pro Supermoto in San Diego they had 10.5 and 9.5 master cylinders I just went with the OEM 9.5mm (it is cast or marked right into the assembly)

    http://www.factoryproracing.com/Contact_Us.html
  20. 2wheellove Husqvarna
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    TE310
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    NInja 1000ABS V65 Magna CR80R
    Thanks...yeah that was where I have been leaning towards. I am going to check out the calipers first...pull the piston out and check the square seal.

    Worst case, I found a 10mm brembo from this place for about $150 which is about $30 less than if i were to buy it from husky.

    http://www.cyclesrus.net/new-brembo-right-side-front-brake-master-cylinder-husqvarna/