How screwed am I?

Discussion in '610/630' started by Kt06siggm1, Dec 10, 2017.

  1. Kt06siggm1 Husqvarna
    C Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 sm610
    Other Motorcycles:
    None
    Was riding the other day and the bike just died on me. It took forever to start back up. Took the right case off and discovered the nut had backed off even after I hit it with an impact gun. Took the clutch basket off and to my surprise the woodruff key was still in one piece but mangled some. What can cause the bike to not turn over if that nut came loose? My fear is that it James up the oil pump so the head wasnt getting oil. I pulled the spark plug and had some oil in the well. The cam chain is still 7 clicks out. I just don't see how that would cause the bike to not run. Any advice? Already ordered a new woodruff key, washer and nut. Did I damage the case itself or just the pump? Pump still spins free. IMG_20171209_150722.jpg IMG_20171209_150750.jpg IMG_20171209_151709.jpg IMG_20171210_120708.jpg IMG_20171209_150722.jpg IMG_20171209_150722.jpg IMG_20171209_150750.jpg IMG_20171209_151709.jpg IMG_20171210_120708.jpg IMG_20171209_150722.jpg IMG_20171209_150750.jpg IMG_20171209_151709.jpg IMG_20171210_120708.jpg IMG_20171209_150722.jpg IMG_20171209_150750.jpg IMG_20171209_151709.jpg IMG_20171210_120708.jpg
  2. silverstreakNZ Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Christchurch nz
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82cr500,76gp360,90wr250,81 420AXC
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    74 tm400 , 02 gasgas ec 300
    Are you serious you can not figure out why it wouldnt turn over after looking at those photos ?
  3. Spice Weasel Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    UK
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 SM610
    If you are saying you found oil on the outside of the engine, in the plug well, these engines have a habit of leaking from the rocker cover. Mine leaked, and when i took it apart i found the rocker cover had been fitted without sealant. I just refitted it with instant gasket and the leaking stopped.
    Man, that is some bad luck youve had there though.
  4. Kt06siggm1 Husqvarna
    C Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 sm610
    Other Motorcycles:
    None
    Yes.... I don't see how that would prevent it from turning over
  5. Kt06siggm1 Husqvarna
    C Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 sm610
    Other Motorcycles:
    None
    Will it be advisable to get a new cover? The oil pump still spins free but I am worried that the case and rubber seals are damaged. What do the seals do?
  6. Spice Weasel Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    UK
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 SM610
    What damage has been done to the part of the case that the screw on the right of the picture threads into? Those screws just fasten down a retaining plate. Is it only the retaining plate, screws and seal that have been damaged?
  7. Kt06siggm1 Husqvarna
    C Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 sm610
    Other Motorcycles:
    None
    Yes the actual pump itself is fine. Just the plate, screws and seal are messed up
  8. Spice Weasel Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    UK
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 SM610
    Have you looked into getting the damaged screws out and retaining plate and seal out? maybe these are the only parts that need replaced? along with the nut that turned loose and key
  9. Kt06siggm1 Husqvarna
    C Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 sm610
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    None
    I was gonna take a crack at it tonight. Will update this thread with my findings
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  10. Kt06siggm1 Husqvarna
    C Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 sm610
    Other Motorcycles:
    None
    So managed to get the screws out. Cleaned up the threads, removed the rubber gasket, cleaned up the mangled case with a Dremel. From what I understand, there is a retaining ring (couldn't find it or it might be fused to the nut, the two screws holding it on, the rubber gasket, the circular spring and then the oil pump shaft and beyond. My issue is finding which part to order because the diagram is grainy and tough to read. My main concern is that retaining plate. IMG_20171211_193816.jpg IMG_20171211_193826.jpg IMG_20171211_193820.jpg
  11. Kt06siggm1 Husqvarna
    C Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 sm610
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    None
    I just cannot find the retaining ring, screws, o ring/gasket, and circular spring in the diagram. image.gif
  12. Kt06siggm1 Husqvarna
    C Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 sm610
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    None
    Ok so I see that the retainer is number 5 and the gasket is 6 on this chart but what number is that circular spring? Or is that included with 6? image (1).gif
  13. rancher1 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    WA
    Ok here you go: screw part # 800049608, plate part # 800084817, seal part # 800062209
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  14. Kt06siggm1 Husqvarna
    C Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 sm610
    Other Motorcycles:
    None
    I ended up ordering x2 number 4, 5 and 6. Hoping that if it does not come with the spring that mine isn't too mangled to reuse.
  15. Kt06siggm1 Husqvarna
    C Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 sm610
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    None
    I appreciate the help Rancher
  16. Oldscool Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    South Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    None
    Other Motorcycles:
    RM125, SWM RS500R & Superdual
    The spring you are worried about is part of the seal.
    Yours has come away from the seal because of the damage, making you think it's a separate part.
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  17. Spice Weasel Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    UK
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 SM610
    Yes, you havent got the metal shell of the seal out, just the rubber inner part.
    You should order a new nut and key aswell
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  18. Kt06siggm1 Husqvarna
    C Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 sm610
    Other Motorcycles:
    None
    Hmm that might be a pain to get out. Already ordered a new nut, woodruff key, and washer as well
  19. Spice Weasel Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    UK
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 SM610
    I agree, the walls of the casing around where the seal seats are too thin and fragile to simply go at it with a screwdriver and pry it out.
    If there is enough of a gap under the seal, you could drill holes on opposite sides through the seal shell and screw some self tappers through, but use the sides of a couple of washers or something for the ends of the screws to push against, so they arent pushing against the soft metal of your case. Maybe file the tips of the screws flat aswell for good measure.
    http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/2007-te610-engine-noises-help-needed.81848/
    I would wait until you have the new seal before going any further than you already have, so you can look at the new seal and have a better idea of whats what
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  20. Kt06siggm1 Husqvarna
    C Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    08 sm610
    Other Motorcycles:
    None
    Yeah not going to mess with it for now. Since I have the tank off, gonna check the valves and seal up the rocker cover with RTV to hopefully stop that leak at the head. Unfortunately, parts aren't going to be here until the 20th.