1. Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Sweden - About 1988 and older

'77CR250 racer resto

Discussion in 'Vintage/Left Kickers' started by Houredout401, Oct 6, 2016.

  1. Houredout401 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    New England
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '77 CR250 '78WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    '76MR250 '83IT250 '84 IT490 '69CT70
    I have been off the site for 3 years. Back then, I was trying to restore a '77CR250 to original condition. I collected a lot of info and parts but it sat for almost three years while I restored a few other bikes in the meantime. Now I want to refocus on the Husky but want to do a racer resto. Im tired of obsessing about the correct nut and washers, and want this one to actually ride in our local vintage scrambles. So looking for some wisdom on the following:

    -What Ohlins set up would you go with out back? I think the '77 frame allowed for a 15 or 15.5 inch eye to eye shock on that frame?

    -Steering bearings. Is there a solution to eliminate the loose bearings by using the '78 tapered cups? Willing to swap triple clamps if need be but don't want to get into cutting and welding frame.

    -Footpegs. Any good aftermarket serrated type pegs that are a fit?

    -Are there any mods to the front forks that are worthwhile?

    -I have the original pipe and silencer in good shape, but its damn loud. Any aftermarket options?
  2. MikeDi Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    U.S.A. New England
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1983 WR 430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Stuck in the 80's vintage
    I would suggest selling the bike as is to Mike Di
  3. Kartwheel68 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Newnan, Georgia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 125XC, 250XC, 430XC, 430WR, 250CR
    Other Motorcycles:
    83 175WR , 76 250WR, 74 250 Mag
    15" shocks are what you need, whatever brand is fine.

    It can be done, a couple people here have done it but it requires, if I remember correctly, a modified bearing race to be made to fit the '77 headstock, it is not a straight parts swap. Personally, other than the difficulty of keeping track of all the loose bearings, I dont see a huge advantage to tapered bearings so long as your loose bearings are properly greased and the steering stem is tightened properly.

    Donno about aftermarket pegs, I modify the stock ones.

    Best mods for the forks are the proper spring rate for your weight and skill level, do not waste your time or money with Race Tech Emulators.

    There are several aftermarket pipes, I dont know how they would compare to a stock as far as sound level.
  4. Houredout401 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    New England
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '77 CR250 '78WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    '76MR250 '83IT250 '84 IT490 '69CT70
    Thanks, my loose bearing cups are worn that is why I figure I would swap. John at Vintage Husky tells me he can supply cups that will work in a 77 frame but require a 78+ triple.

    The ignition is a bit sketchy too. Sourcing electrical parts on ebay is dodgy, can anyone recommend an aftermarket set up?
  5. grouty Auto Lover ...

    Location:
    South West UK
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    78 390WR, 78 390 AMX, 500 Humph
    Other Motorcycles:
    works 73 CCM 520, another 73 CCM520
    There is not much stuff worth having on ebay at present.
    If John at vintage husky has the parts, then buy from him. The later 78 fork yokes are fairly common, and cheap as many move up to 40mm forks. I like my 35mm ones and have never seen the point in swapping .... yet ! Foot pegs are easy. Andy at HVA Factory has them in stainless steel. They are not designed for the ML frame but 10 minutes with a grinder and a polish will see them fit fine. I have tried a couple of the aftermarket ignitions. The Electrex World works fine, and so does the German made Power Dynamo (was MZB). I prefer the German one as the lighting output for my WR is brilliant.
    If it is of any use, my build thread is on here somewhere under "390 Auto Build". This was my 78 ML framed 390 Auto. Frame wise is is pretty much identical to yours bar the headstock bearings.
  6. auto Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    NJ,USA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    too many
    If you want tapered bearings you need a 78 frame.Completely different steering head.
  7. jimspac Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Connecticut
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR, 82 430WR, 84 250WR, 85 400
    Other Motorcycles:
    86 400WR, 82 Montesa Cota 349
    I converted to taper bearings by extracting the cones from a 1978 kinda trash OR frame. I realize the difficulty of finding such a frame to harvest from as I have only ever found that one. The best way is if you have a friend with a metal cutting lathe, have him make you 2 cups that press into your frame with the ball cones removed. You need to get the bearings to build around as the race presses into the cone caps. if I get a chance I can give you a sketch of exactly what you need to have made.No cutting or welding on the frame required.

    I also happen to have a set of 35mm triple clamps that are for the tapered bearing frames. You can PM me for price.

    As far as exhaust, see if you can repack the silencer. Not really much need for an aftermarket exhaust unless it is bent or caved excessively. You can get aftermarket silencers . SuperTrapp was popular in the 70's when you wanted to control sound and the Classic Steel silencers are still available as well as aluminum units as well. www.supertrapp.com
  8. Houredout401 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    New England
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '77 CR250 '78WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    '76MR250 '83IT250 '84 IT490 '69CT70
    Thanks grouty and jimspac. John L is hooking me up with the cones that will press into my frame - he has a machinist that makes him for his trick triple clamps. Before I saw jimspac offer, I found some '78 yokes on ebay that should work for $50.
  9. Houredout401 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    New England
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '77 CR250 '78WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    '76MR250 '83IT250 '84 IT490 '69CT70
    Next up is brake pedal and brake plate bushings, one of the gremlins I was chasing when I thought I wanted to do a museum resto several years ago. So much slop in these parts it is not useable. I've ordered the bronze brake plate bushings from HVA as well as new torque link bushings and bronze brake pedal bushing. I HATE the bronze bushing set up on the brake pedal, but looks like that is the only option? Anyone run a better brake pedal set up, or know if the HVA 83+ pedal with the bearings could be fit?

    While were are on it, is there a 40MM fork that is not drastically longer than the stock '77CR250 35MM fork?
  10. Kartwheel68 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Newnan, Georgia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 125XC, 250XC, 430XC, 430WR, 250CR
    Other Motorcycles:
    83 175WR , 76 250WR, 74 250 Mag
    You can use your damper rods in 40mm forks to shorten them, but that will bump you up into the next class where you would have to compete against 79-83 bikes. The best thing would be to stay with your 35mm forks, at the travel your bike has (8.5") they work fine.
  11. 84scrambler Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    mid Florida
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    87 xc 250, 85 wrx 250, 79 wr 250
    For your silencing needs you need to hunt down a wr Pipe , it will surprise you how much quieter they are. I have a spare wr pipe to a 79 250 if it will fit and you are willing to trade me yours ? that is if they will cross over ? Maybe some one will know on here ?
  12. Houredout401 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    New England
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '77 CR250 '78WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    '76MR250 '83IT250 '84 IT490 '69CT70
    Need to stay in class thanks,for tip. I'll spring the 35mm for my weight.
  13. Houredout401 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    New England
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '77 CR250 '78WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    '76MR250 '83IT250 '84 IT490 '69CT70
    Thanks for pipe trade offer, but will sit tight and work out other kinks first.
  14. Houredout401 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    New England
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '77 CR250 '78WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    '76MR250 '83IT250 '84 IT490 '69CT70
    Hubs were sent off to Buchanans today, going with the sun rims in gold. Taking frame to welder friend who will straighten out a tweaked foot peg mount, then sandblast and auto-body grade paint for frame and the fun stuff can start.

    Engine had a fresh-ish top end when stored and I did store with some oil poured down the spark plug hole, but I want to pull the jug and have a look....for the time being Ill try to put thoughts of rusted crank bearings out of my mind....

    Before I drop $25 on an ebay re-print, are there any free factory service manuals out there for the ML bikes? I checked on this site and the moderator-provided link to a manual did not work.
  15. SteveJ Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    New Mexico
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1970 400 Cross, 1983 500 CR
    Other Motorcycles:
    84 Honda CR500R, 81 Honda CBX,
  16. SteveJ Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    New Mexico
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1970 400 Cross, 1983 500 CR
    Other Motorcycles:
    84 Honda CR500R, 81 Honda CBX,
  17. Houredout401 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    New England
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '77 CR250 '78WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    '76MR250 '83IT250 '84 IT490 '69CT70
    got it thanks.
  18. jimspac Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Connecticut
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR, 82 430WR, 84 250WR, 85 400
    Other Motorcycles:
    86 400WR, 82 Montesa Cota 349

    I am not sure about 250 but a 79 390WR expansion chamber would not work in my 78 WR frame with the 390WR engine in it but a 77/78 pipe fit perfectly.
  19. Houredout401 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    New England
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '77 CR250 '78WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    '76MR250 '83IT250 '84 IT490 '69CT70
    So the tapered bearing triples that I got off ebay did not have the "distance spacer" shown in the parts fiche as part no. 7 which seems to sit below the bottom bearing. Is the diagram correct or am I actually missing a part?
  20. Houredout401 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    New England
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '77 CR250 '78WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    '76MR250 '83IT250 '84 IT490 '69CT70
    I tried to post pic of the parts fiche but it wont show in the final message, hopefully someone knows of the spacer.