recently been riding a different location which consists of 4wd tracks, gravel and clay with errosion bumps, washouts, whoops and boulders ranging from fist size to car size.Already lowered the oil level on the 45 shivers to 135mm to try and get some plushness anyhow long story short the deflection from the sharp edged rocks was dangerous so i decided try some diy work on the existing valves before resorting to buy differnt valves so took out the base valve and drilled out the bleed holes just enough so they do not effect the shim sealing surfaces also positioned one of the smaller shims behind the largest shim to help with the flex.night and day difference the forks just soak up everything havn't played with clickers yet but couldn't be happier.