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449/511 G450 Torque Limiter replacement

Discussion in '4 Stroke' started by 9880sts, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. 9880sts Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Boronia Victoria
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE511 2013
    Other Motorcycles:
    GAS GAS EC 300 2006
    Just did my TL replacement on the TE511 2013 model.

    Now i did have a chat with my Dealer , and this also possible on the 2011 model. I went there and checked the frame and bolts... it is the same as on the 2013. Some mechanics dont even remove engine mounts at all. Just loosen the bolts and leave em in the Cover while you slide it out and back in.

    Not as bad as it looks... DIY possible. Slide1.JPG Slide2.JPG Slide3.JPG Slide4.JPG
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  2. 9880sts Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Boronia Victoria
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE511 2013
    Other Motorcycles:
    GAS GAS EC 300 2006
  3. 9880sts Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Boronia Victoria
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE511 2013
    Other Motorcycles:
    GAS GAS EC 300 2006
  4. 9880sts Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Boronia Victoria
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE511 2013
    Other Motorcycles:
    GAS GAS EC 300 2006
  5. JRW Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Charlotte area
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TE 449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2013 Tiger 800 XC
    Nice write up! Thanks. :)
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  6. James Patton Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Edwardsville, ILL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE511 2012, WR125 2006
    Other Motorcycles:
    1250S Bandit, DRZ400S
    Very good write up, great job & info. Thanks!
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  7. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
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    many
    Nice detailed write up. I decided to just pull the motor when I did mine. For me it was EZ and could then lay the motor on its side and keep everything clean an aligned. I was surprised how easy it was to extract the motor. Someone recommended heating the bearing to get the TL to drop into the case. Mine was very tight and need some persuasion. Also it seems weird to have sealed bearings in the motor. Not sure if we should be pulling the seal or not. I left mine as is. Some remove the seal and leave it out.

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  8. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    did you test the breakaway point on the new one?
  9. PawPaw Husqvarna
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    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TC 449
    Other Motorcycles:
    Honda Crf450R + old CB750
    Great write up.
    I do have two questions.....
    Where did you get the new and improved TL?
    Did you purchase the one for the Husky or the BMW as the parts diagram show some differences?

    Thank you,

    Paw Paw
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  10. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125
    Good job mate. Nicely done & good info to have. :thumbsup:
    Reckon I'm down for a strip & reshim of my own one fairly soon. I don't have slip yet, but I don't want it to get to that either.
  11. Big Timmy Husqvarna
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    Location:
    (South Eastern) AZ.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2015 FE 501 with lots of goodies.
    Other Motorcycles:
    BMW G450X, 15'FE501, 23 KTM 1290 SAR
    Great detailed write up. You've outdone yourself again Helmut. For sure, we have to thank you again.:notworthy:

    The flow of information is really going now. Keep it up.:applause:

    The time you have spent providing us with clear and concise information is greatly appreciated. Just by your help in making it much easier to see and understand, compared to what was being done before on this issue. We should all be getting up to speed now on a subject that we will all have to service at some point as owners of the Kymco Powerplant.:D

    It will fail sooner or later, some maybe much sooner than others. Under the harshest of riding conditions it really is a sacrificial component. We now at least know it is serviceable and how to check it or have it tested easier for operational function.:thumbsup:

    We all knew this could be a problem after buying one of these bikes powered by this engine after either taking the time to read the service manual. Or by reading the plentiful amount of available information out there on the internet. With these threads now the average mechanic should have no reservations about doing this themselves because it's no big deal. It really is nothing to be afraid of.:cheers:
  12. 9880sts Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Boronia Victoria
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE511 2013
    Other Motorcycles:
    GAS GAS EC 300 2006

    The sealed bearing in this case helps to channel Oilflow though the TL. The TL is Lubricated from the hole you can see in the back. If the bearing is open, no supply into the drilled TL shaft.
  13. 9880sts Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Boronia Victoria
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE511 2013
    Other Motorcycles:
    GAS GAS EC 300 2006

    i bought it from Dangermousse..
    It was a Stock TL and i just wanted the thing with more NM, so started to test around a v bit.
    The Info i gave here is for future reference. I would buy the single parts through BMW and just repair the Old one if i have to again.
    I would also buy the Allen head bolt because it is coated with dry Loctide and pretty soft on the hex,
  14. Tinken Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Hesperia, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    MY12 WR511
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha
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    This is incorrect. The hole you see in the background above is the breather vent. The seal on the bearing forces breather gasses to move through the torque limiter before exiting the engine. The torque limiter is not oiled from the breather vent in the back. It receives it's oil from the oil galleries cut in both sides of the larger gear in the main torque limiter assembly.

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  15. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125
    Tinken, do you have a picture of the other side of that case?
    I'd really love to see the inside surfaces if possible.
  16. Tinken Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Hesperia, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    MY12 WR511
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha
    :eek: umm... digging through pictures now :)
  17. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125
    Thanks, I've never seen the other side - (Hoping not to on my own especially :))
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  18. Tinken Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Hesperia, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    MY12 WR511
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha
    Not a real good picture, I'll try to get you a better one later. The left green arrow points to a hole which I have drilled into my breather vent tube (directly behind the TL).

    When I had my engine apart, I drilled into the breather vent and sealed it below the drilled hole. I also milled a slot into the inner cavity of my case. This allows me to return oil from my breather bottle to my wet sump directly without going through the drain plug.


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  19. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125
    Thanks for that. I've seen this pic of yours before now that I see it, didn't realise at the time it was the RH case. :)
    The more I see of the original breather system, the less I understand how the :censored: it made it to production..... :thinking:
  20. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many

    The backside shaft of the TL fills that bearing hole super tight like it should. I dont see any oil flowing through there.