1. Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Sweden - About 1988 and older

430 LC deco exercise

Discussion in 'Vintage/Left Kickers' started by Darrel78, Dec 27, 2016.

  1. ct cr430 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Connecticut , litchfield county
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1981 cr 430
    Other Motorcycles:
    2007 honda crf450
    Have a friend with a bad right knee , when he's trying to start a bike with a right side kicker , he has to stand on the right side of the bike and use his left leg to start it . Now that looks awkward . But he uses left leg on a left kicker .
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  2. jimspac Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Connecticut
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR, 82 430WR, 84 250WR, 85 400
    Other Motorcycles:
    86 400WR, 82 Montesa Cota 349
    There was a reason that DeCoster always started his right kick Suzuki with his left foot. When you jump on the kick start straddling the bike, do you really want to risk crashing your jewels on the seat? Open bikes take a lot more push to start than a 125 or 250.
    RUF likes this.
  3. everfree Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bend, Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    86 430AE (2), 88 430AE, 87 430WR (2)
    Other Motorcycles:
    87 250 XC, 87 430 CR, '17 GG 300
    suprize, does this mean less Guinness or more Guinness is needed after 55 ?
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  4. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    there is also the thing about saving wear to engine parts..not just yourself. i wouldnt mind having a deco on my 360 just to save the semi-fragile kicker issue they have.
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  5. fran...k. Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    eastern ct
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    420ae 98wr125 2004wr250 others
    Other Motorcycles:
    electric freeride 1993 yam gts
    This means the method that "breathes" through a hole in the head outside of the dome? There has been a thread with pictures of that on here.
  6. Eurofreak Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Western NY
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1986 TE 510, 1982 CR250, 2008 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    70's Triumph , Bultaco , Maico, etc
    Details please. I'm interested. With my gimpy left leg, even at 5'11" I'd rather kick from the left side. I have had 4 left kickers with another on the way.
    Unfortunately 57 years old and several rebuilds is approaching ancient :oldman: in the dirt world
  7. Bigbill Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '83 250wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    0 right now
    I drilled and welded in a sleeve right behind the sparkplug on the rear. I drilled the sleeve in a lathe to have a line up hole. Then I chamfered both ends of the sleeve. I used magnesium TIG rod and welded both ends of the sleeve. I used a angle table on a milling machine to line up the angle on the pilot hole. I drilled and tapped it for the compression release. I could kick start my 86/400 with the cr.

    I need electric start now. But I pop start the kickers.

    Education about pop starting a 390cr. Turn the petrol on, choke on, Get to the top of the hill coast down, when the speed is up use second gear. Dump the clutch she should fire right up. Do not use first gear. If you do you will be pushing it back up the hill for round two.

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...RS0&_nkw=compression release adapter&_sacat=0http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...ease .TRS0&_nkw=compression release &_sacat=0
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  8. suprize Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bendigo, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR 400, bike in a box Moto Villa 350
    Other Motorcycles:
    ktm 300
    "neck oil " for joint lubrication should be topped up regularly in my experience....the brand doesn't matter. "over fuelling" is not good tho
  9. ajcmbrown Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Metung Victoria Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    400WR 250WR 07 WR500 430AE 360AE
    Other Motorcycles:
    1985 500CR Ducati Multistrada 1200S
    Yes
    Yes, over fuelling can cause instability.
  10. Eurofreak Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Western NY
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1986 TE 510, 1982 CR250, 2008 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    70's Triumph , Bultaco , Maico, etc
    Thanks Big Bill! Good info. I've never seen those decompression buttons before.
  11. Bigbill Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '83 250wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    0 right now
    I'm going to install one in every husky I have. Some heads I purchased already have the extra sparkplug threaded hole machined in them. I purchased new Suzuki cable compression releases too. But I like the smaller one.

    If I do ride again the old hill just maybe my friend again. My legs for kicking just ain't working anymore.
    I vision a museum in the shop with a new estart husky 300. Maybe.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-COMPRES...ash=item2ef91d3a05:g:vjMAAOSwp5JWVPUL&vxp=mtr
  12. Bigbill Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '83 250wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    0 right now
    It's not kicking it that's the problem, we can all kick but it's the speed of the kick with the bigger bores. Was we get older we tend to slow down. I'm 66yo.
  13. jo360 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    perth australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1983 exc framed wr430 engine
    Other Motorcycles:
    ktm 520exc
    Victa make a vacuum operated automatic unit for their mowers uses vacuum from the inlet maniflold to close the valve.comes in handy if you stall as well.
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  14. Eurofreak Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Western NY
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1986 TE 510, 1982 CR250, 2008 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    70's Triumph , Bultaco , Maico, etc
    It seems the fussy part is where to put the hole for the deco valve in an LC to avoid the water jacket. Big Bill, I guess that's
    why you have to install a sleeve for the deco.
  15. Bigbill Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '83 250wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    0 right now
    I put the hole on the rear side of the sparkplug towards the rear of the bike. I chamfered the sleeve so it had plenty of weld. It worked great. My biggest mistake was I sold my '86/400WRX CROSS COUNTRY. I regret riding the '78/390cr more the weight loss machine.
  16. Darrel78 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Central Arkansas
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    87 WR430
    Deco exercise complete! Kicks like a worn out 250. While this bike was never a difficult bike to start my recent health issues left me with limited stamina. I wouldn't ride the bike simply because I couldn't reliably start it. Cancer / chemo treatments took a lot out of me. Past all that now and spring beckons; going to be a great season! IMG_1333.JPG IMG_1334.JPG
  17. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    good luck with your health sir...hope you are in the clear now
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  18. jo360 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    perth australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1983 exc framed wr430 engine
    Other Motorcycles:
    ktm 520exc
    Make sure the tabs that hold the diaphragm on are nice and tight would also upgrade the hose to something abit more robust ( vacuum hose) just to stop it colapsing due to heat from the engine also remember that the hose needs to be heat resistant as it feeds directly from carb manifold.
    Enjoy think you will love the auto set up.
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  19. dukkman Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Warwick Queensland Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    85/WR 400,86/WR 240,83/430 is mates
    Other Motorcycles:
    69@71/TS90-76/TS100-72/DKW-78/PE
    There are a few advantages to having a deco fitted.
    No kickback , protecting cases and internals ( have a photo somewhere of a 400lc kickstart shaft that is twisted off )
    Easy to start because you can give the bike a few little kicks to prime it.
    If you can reach it then easy to clutch start down hill after a rear brake lockup snuff. ( The Victa one does this automatically )
    Protects the tiny bones in your foot.
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  20. Eurofreak Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Western NY
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1986 TE 510, 1982 CR250, 2008 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    70's Triumph , Bultaco , Maico, etc
    Glad it was a success. Here's to a good season, your health, and a great idea.:cheers:
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